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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
We are not laplanders of Inuits. We live in a privileged society where we can choose to NOT harm sentient beings and the planet, and ultimately, ourselves

You said we have no instincts to kill animals, and I gave you two examples of people who depend on killing animals for their lives. Another example is Aborigines eating grubs etc because of the desert climate.

Do you kill wasps and spiders?

I knew a vet who inspected abbattoirs, so trusted that animals are stunned before slaughter. I'm comfortable with that. I know there are rogue places, but that's up to the law to catch them.
 




Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,338
Brighton factually.....
We are not laplanders of Inuits. We live in a privileged society where we can choose to NOT harm sentient beings and the planet, and ultimately, ourselves

So your saying it's ok for them, but bad for us meat eaters here because we have a choice because we're privileged ?
 










Bridcutt

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2011
2,747
You said we have no instincts to kill animals, and I gave you two examples of people who depend on killing animals for their lives. Another example is Aborigines eating grubs etc because of the desert climate.

Do you kill wasps and spiders?

I knew a vet who inspected abbattoirs, so trusted that animals are stunned before slaughter. I'm comfortable with that. I know there are rogue places, but that's up to the law to catch them.

Depending on killing to suvive doesn't mean we have instincts to kill ?? My point was we don't have carnivore traits (we don't salivate when we see animals) for example. Are you asking this wasp/spider question because you think I don't care about them or what?
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Depending on killing to suvive doesn't mean we have instincts to kill ?? My point was we don't have carnivore traits (we don't salivate when we see animals) for example. Are you asking this wasp/spider question because you think I don't care about them or what?

An animal is an animal regardless of species. Killing is killing regardless. A wasp has a right to life too.

Salivating depends on smell. I know someone who lost their sense of smell and then couldn't enjoying eating anything because they couldn't produce saliva properly.
 




Bridcutt

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2011
2,747
So your saying it's ok for them, but bad for us meat eaters here because we have a choice because we're privileged ?

I'd love for the whole world to be vegan, it's not possible though at the moment so yes I think it's bad to consume animal products when it's detrimental to our health + the environment AND it obviously harms/kills animals. Animals will always die (lions will always kill gazelles), it doesn't mean we should. We should live committing the least amount of harm as possible
 


Bridcutt

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2011
2,747
An animal is an animal regardless of species. Killing is killing regardless. A wasp has a right to life too.

Never said they don't have a right of life? Vegans don't randomly go round killing wasps/bees/insects/bugs. That's why we don't eat honey and we don't consume products which use beetles for food colouring etc (forgot the name of it)
 








1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,234
I am 70 next year, and I have lost several friends, who were vegetarian, to cancer.

Look at Linda McCartney who was a trailblazer for vegetarianism, and only made it to 56.

I haven't eaten meat for about 30 years. For about 15 of those years I was a strict vegan.

I've never done it for health reasons. Although I believe a vegetarian, and especially a vegan diet is healthier than one with large amounts of meat and dairy, I believe in terms of health diet is just one small part of a wider picture. I think exercise, stress levels, pollution, genetics and just plain old pot luck have huge bearings on health, regardless of a persons diet.

In the grand scheme of things, I think the majority of my life being spent free from eating meat will have next to bugger all bearing on when I pop my clogs or if I get cancer or not.
 


Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,338
Brighton factually.....
I'd love for the whole world to be vegan, it's not possible though at the moment so yes I think it's bad to consume animal products when it's detrimental to our health + the environment AND it obviously harms/kills animals. Animals will always die (lions will always kill gazelles), it doesn't mean we should. We should live committing the least amount of harm as possible

Good luck with that......

He said as he tucked into his toad in the hole with cauliflower cheese and peas....

Mmmmm
 








BN9 BHA

DOCKERS
NSC Patron
Jul 14, 2013
22,689
Newhaven

You were sarcastically calling me mature, my point is I didn't come on to a serious discussion thread and disrupt it.
The thread started with a silly video, I wouldn't have noticed you if you hadn't quoted me when I posted the vegan meme.
 






Oct 25, 2003
23,964
my wife is a vegan now. It's certainly opened my eyes to a lot of things (and made me much better at cooking). The meat/dairy industry has got completely out of control in "the west" to a quite sickening level. Not only are they making the lives of animals miserable but they're destroying the planet as well
 


1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,234
Yeah and we all know what they are..
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You should search for durianrider.

You and him could have hours of fun together.

He'd probably throw more fvcks into you than you'd hear on a building site too :lol:
 


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