If meat eaters acted like vegans....

[Bridcutt]

I am 70 next year, and I have lost several friends, who were vegetarian, to cancer.

Look at Linda McCartney who was a trailblazer for vegetarianism, and only made it to 56.

I'm not saying you can't die from cancer as a vegeterian/vegan ? I just gave you a fact about processed meat/red meat. A vegan (who doesn't eat unhealthy vegan foods like oreos 24/7) is at a lower risk of heart disease, many cancers and diabates. Heart disease is the number 1 killer worldwide my friend

 

[BN9 BHA]

What a disgusting thing to compare it to!
I don't have a dog

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He's probably a vegan and a cyclist

 

[Seagull kimchi]

Just because we've done something for a long time it doesn't make it correct/good. Even more so now that studies have shown that processed meat/red meat causes cancer.

Exactly processed meat is bad...red meat is a slow road to goat. Nobody needs goat. I agree, that's why I cut it out, but not everyone is going to agree with complete abstinence. The best we can hope for is a general raising of animal welfare standards. Once you start preaching 'fundamental' style the battle gets lost.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

He's probably a vegan and a cyclist

Yeah and we all know what they are..

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[Pretty pink fairy]

blow jobs would be a thing of the past for some
regards
DR

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I'm not saying you can't die from cancer as a vegeterian/vegan ? I just gave you a fact about processed meat/red meat. A vegan (who doesn't eat unhealthy vegan foods like oreos 24/7) is at a lower risk of heart disease, many cancers and diabates. Heart disease is the number 1 killer worldwide my friend

You've got to die of something. I'd rather have a bad heart and go out like a light, than have a stroke, and be paralysed for years or have dementia.

 

[Bridcutt]

What a disgusting thing to compare it to!
I don't have a dog

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That didn't take long

 

[Bridcutt]

He's probably a vegan and a cyclist

Not a cyclist, you seem a bit simple though BN9

 

[Buzzer]

You said "animals will have to be killed".. what does that mean? .

Really? Not trying to be funny but I would have thought that was obvious. I think we're naturally omnivores which involves eating meat therefore animals will have to be killed in order for that meat to be consumed. It's as simple as that, I'm not trying to make it into a wider point, I'm just stating the facts as I see them.

As for the rest of your post, I'll keep on saying that I get where you are coming from, that I am aware that a lot of animals suffer badly, that I am all in favour of more humane ways to rear and kill them, I'm not comfortable with a lot of ways that animals are slaughtered and try where possible to buy ethically sourced meat but the bottom line is that you are completely against killing animals for food (which I do understand and respect) whereas I'm happy to eat meat and I enjoy doing so.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Yeah and we all know what they are..

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Yep, they definitely have to tell everyone

 

[Insel affe]

96.2% of the meat eaters on here wouldn't eat meat if they had to slaughter and skin it themselves. 73.2% of meat eaters on here wouldn't eat meat if they were shown the full process by which it goes from standing alive in a field to the handy little guilt-free packages of animals they buy in the supermarket.

I worked in an abattoir when I left school and then a butchers specialising in all things pig straight from the abattoir to your butchers shelf, but won't buy from supermarkets. No problem with kill, skin, bone and eat.

Funnily though I could not stand fish chopping and gutting etc, so slippy it gave me the willies.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Not a cyclist, you seem a bit simple though BN9

If we are doing personal insults, you sound like a bellend.

 

[Seagull kimchi]

blow jobs would be a thing of the past for some
regards
DR

I'm sure you still practice long and hard.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

What's natural about it? If it was natural then it wouldn't be harmful to us (processed meat meat causes cancer and red meat probably does). We have absolutely no instincts to kill animals/eat them. Put a toddler in a room with an apple and a rabbit and let me know when the toddler is eating the rabbit and playing with the apple. You don't salivate when you see animals, no one does

Try telling that to Inuits and Laplanders. What vegetation do they have to eat? Animals provide the majority of their clothes, and food.

 

[Bridcutt]

Really? Not trying to be funny but I would have thought that was obvious. I think we're naturally omnivores which involves eating meat therefore animals will have to be killed in order for that meat to be consumed. It's as simple as that, I'm not trying to make it into a wider point, I'm just stating the facts as I see them.

As for the rest of your post, I'll keep on saying that I get where you are coming from, that I am aware that a lot of animals suffer badly, that I am all in favour of more humane ways to rear and kill them, I'm not comfortable with a lot of ways that animals are slaughtered and try where possible to buy ethically sourced meat but the bottom line is that you are completely against killing animals for food (which I do understand and respect) whereas I'm happy to eat meat and I enjoy doing so.

We can eat meat, doesn't mean it's right. We are only omnivores because we CAN, not because we HAVE to. As for your second point, fair enough. You support it + don't care enough about the environment, I get it - lots of people are like you !

 

[Bridcutt]

Try telling that to Inuits and Laplanders. What vegetation do they have to eat? Animals provide the majority of their clothes, and food.

We are not laplanders of Inuits. We live in a privileged society where we can choose to NOT harm sentient beings and the planet, and ultimately, ourselves

 

[Bridcutt]

If we are doing personal insults, you sound like a bellend.

That's better than actually being a bellend

 

[Buzzer]

We can eat meat, doesn't mean it's right. We are only omnivores because we CAN, not because we HAVE to. As for your second point, fair enough. You support it + don't care enough about the environment, I get it - lots of people are like you !

Fair enough and on that note can we agree to disagree and leave it at that? It's been an interesting discussion.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

75.2% of the people on this thread talk utter bolox.So veggies are going to kill off all the animals on the planet so they can grow enough to eat?What gives you the right to decide which animals are allowed to survive?If you think people won't kill animals when they are hungry,you live in la-la land

How you got that from my post I'll never understand. I don't eat meat and don't like to talk about it except in multiple posts on this thread, but come the situation you describe above I'd be the first to pick up the nearest machete and behead all the cats and dogs owned by every single meat eater in the BN postcode area and happily cook them up and devour them while their owners look on.

 

[BN9 BHA]

That's better, i actually am a bellend

I like an edit