I see southern railways are banning bikes on all services in the Olympics

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Woodchip

It's all about the bikes
Aug 28, 2004
14,460
Shaky Town, NZ
I always find the ones that sit there with their helmet STILL ON quite puzzling, or 10 minutes before they arrive at their station they already have their helmet and gloves on and push everyone out of the way so they can stand next to their precious bike.

That precious bike is probably worth twice as much as your laptop. Would you leave your laptop unattended for any length of time?
 




ken tiler

Active member
Nov 24, 2007
343
Brighton
Ive been commuting for the last year from Brighton to Worthing with a bike absolutely no problem - theres a special area set aside for bikes on each train.
 


D

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Eventually everyone will be using a bike because it will be quicker for short journeys and less hassle than jumping in your car. Driving stresses me out these days. It's the way other people drive, and the constant restrictions slowly being put in place. I look at the poor sods trying to get to Brighton every morning. Bumper to bumper along the A259 from Peacehaven. It's quicker to cycle.
 


Comedy Steve

We're f'ing brilliant
Oct 20, 2003
1,485
BN6
That's fair enough but how is anyone going to steal it when it's on a moving train? I'm talking about the 10 minuters as I like to call them, you also get a lot of non-cyclists that like to stand up for 10-15 minutes before they reach their stop, usually if they're next to you in the window seat and getting off at exactly the same place.

I'm certainly not anti-cyclist though, I have 2 bikes of my own.

If you have a Brompton you can put it in the luggage rack quite easily, and being a £1k bike and enormously resellable, people wait at the stop, then grab it and jump off just before the doors close. I lock mine to the train. Also Bromptons fit between the seat backs on FCC trains - they are no obstruction to anyone and half the size of the Dahons mentioned earlier. Brilliant bikes.
 






Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,748
LOONEY BIN
If you lhave a Brompton you can put it in the luggage rack quite easily, and being a £1k bike and enormously resellable, people wait at the stop, then grab it and jump off just before the doors close. I lock mine to the train. Also Bromptons fit between the seat backs on FCC trains - they are no obstruction to anyone and half the size of the Dahons mentioned earlier. Brilliant bikes.
Illegal to lock to any part of train and you can be prosecuted. All in the info leaflets
 


Dave the OAP

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,762
at home
Illegal to lock to any part of train and you can be prosecuted. All in the info leaflets

What does that's sentence actually mean?
 






Dave the OAP

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,762
at home
Idiots who padlock their bike to handrails or seats are breaking the law

Ah gotcha.

Yes when I commuted once there was a problem getting off at lb as some twat had padlocked his bike to the ceter pole by the door and couldn't get it to open and people couldn't get off......great if there was a fire!!!!!!
 


DJ Leon

New member
Aug 30, 2003
3,446
Hassocks
But you wrote "causes a big problem." How does someone storing a bicycle in the area set aside and designed for them cause a big problem? It doesn't does it.

I didn't say that (as I think you know). I said I think it's a big problem when people who pay for an expensive ticket can't sit down because someone has brought a bike on to the train. I also explained why this sometimes happens (one space for bikes prevents 2 people sitting down - fine on an empty train, not fine (in my book) when it's a packed train), but you chose to ignore that and maintain your ignorance.

So - let's be clear - I think people have more of a right to space on a train than someone's bike. It's as simple as that.

You obviously don't agree with that or you think the scenario never happens. Despite you not using the trains every day.

Eitehr way, there's not much point to arguing this any further is there?
 








Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,747
The Fatherland
So - let's be clear - I think people have more of a right to space on a train than someone's bike. It's as simple as that.

So a single person has more of a right than a person with a bike? What about a person versus person with suitcases?
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,747
The Fatherland
Just take a wheel from it (most are quick release) and stick it in the drivers compartment.

Theft, it's illegal. Idiots who do this are breaking the law
 






Comedy Steve

We're f'ing brilliant
Oct 20, 2003
1,485
BN6
Illegal to lock to any part of train and you can be prosecuted. All in the info leaflets

A Brompton when fully folded does not class as a bicycle, it classes as luggage, as it is within 90cm x 70cm x 30cm, and sub 50kg. Luggage can be locked if it does not obstruct other luggage and/or passenger access and you accompany it all times, or at least that was the rule when I asked. No?
 


See-Goals

DIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE
Aug 13, 2004
1,172
Seaford
Folding bikes aren't the problem, its the type of folding bike owners on trains who think they should be given the same space and courtesy on a train as a parent with a buggy or old folk with walking aides.

The ones who insist on putting the thing back together before they alight therefore taking up all of the space around the doors or even worse insist on 'bowling' the bike into a train before people can board it so it can take up space by the door where someone would otherwise be standing.

Yes I do commute every day and I did say 'type of' folding bike owner, I'm not making a sweeping generalisation.
 


Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,748
LOONEY BIN
A Brompton when fully folded does not class as a bicycle, it classes as luggage, as it is within 90cm x 70cm x 30cm, and sub 50kg. Luggage can be locked if it does not obstruct other luggage and/or passenger access and you accompany it all times, or at least that was the rule when I asked. No?

Locking it to handrails or any part of the train is illegal and will be dealt with
 




Phat Baz 68

Get a ****ing life mate !
Apr 16, 2011
5,026
Thats a shame for my ex she has tickets for the footy !!
 




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