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We have only lost 3 games at home all season and yet you say we are underachieving and that you would expect to be higher in the first year? Why is that? Has that money been passed onto the manager yet for his budget?
Maybe [MENTION=12595]Acker79[/MENTION] can reproduce his averages per game per manager that he posted in the past where it showed that Peter Taylor was the most successful but Gus was catching up fast. I think you should also take into account that this is Poyet's first managerial post and he is learning as he's going along. Not one team has done the double over us this season in the Championship.

As for the pitch being a problem, yes it was the same for both sides and maybe a reason why Donny find themselves at the bottom of the table, because it's not doing them any favours.

Maybe i have not explained my point well.What i am suggesting is that we should have a cracking home record due to the budget Gus has had and due to the packed new stadia full of excited schoolboys who have dreamed for this for 14years.So the atmosphere should generate more points but when we go away the true picture budget against results is more of a realistic judge of how far Gus has taken us.Like i have said i know Gus is still learning but he still has a lot to prove here IMO.
I do agree you could be right about donny home performances, but again you do get used to that type of surface so going to a decent one should also fill them with confidence.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Maybe i have not explained my point well.What i am suggesting is that we should have a cracking home record due to the budget Gus has had and due to the packed new stadia full of excited schoolboys who have dreamed for this for 14years.So the atmosphere should generate more points but when we go away the true picture budget against results is more of a realistic judge of how far Gus has taken us.Like i have said i know Gus is still learning but he still has a lot to prove here IMO.
I do agree you could be right about donny home performances, but again you do get used to that type of surface so going to a decent one should also fill them with confidence.

If atmosphere generated points then we should never have won anything at Withdean let alone 3 championships and the playoffs. Having a decent pitch and stadium can help success like Reading, Hull and Swansea but doesn't guarantee it either. Your expectations are unreasonable.
 


leigull

New member
Sep 26, 2010
3,810
This thread gets better.

We're either doing 'average' or 'underachieving'. Christ almighty.

'we should win at home because we sell out'. Genius stuff, truly.
 


trueblue

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,955
Hove
My goodness there are some idiots watching us these days. Gus has transformed the club from top to bottom, regardless of where we finish this season. That'll do for me.
 






fork me

I have changed this
Oct 22, 2003
2,147
Gate 3, Limassol, Cyprus
We were ten minutes away from a victory and only a silly handball (haven't seen if he was pushed yet) stopped us taking the 3 points away from the match. It was a pitch that doesn't suit our style but we were very close to nicking the game - what more consistency are you after? Do we have to beat everyone 3-0 and be top 2 in the league?!

Just don't understand how we can be having such a fantastic season, buy yet people come out with shit like we haven't got a sound management team. Maybe it's just me but these comments wind me up more than Saints or Palace fans coming on here to troll

Fair point. Let's be honest, before the start of the season, who wouldn't have taken being just one point from the play-off zone at this time? Our first season back up and we are genuinely fighting for promotion. We've played three Premiership sides in cup competitions and beaten two of them. There are plenty of positives.

Yes, we have bad days, yes, I'm still fighting to live down the Liverpool game, but let's not forget, we beat Newcastle to even get there. Gus is in his first management position, of course he's going to make mistakes, but he's given us a new way to play, he's shown some serious flair and he's got us to a point we could only have dreamed of a couple of seasons ago. Has he been fortunate with money? Of course, but plenty of clubs have pumped money in and still flopped, it's what you do with it that counts and Gus has done good.
 


fork me

I have changed this
Oct 22, 2003
2,147
Gate 3, Limassol, Cyprus
I don't think that was me. The only thing I can find in my file is the season stats for gus and slade and league position for the last 4-5 seasons. However, I just went over soccerbase and have this:

Managerialrecord.jpg

Bring back Hinsh and Booker! On a serious note, 1.76 points per game over that many games is an impressive statistic, and shows tthat using that simple figure he is our most successful manager after Taylor(There's only 2 Peter Taylors - always liked that chant) (although 38 games is maybe not statistically significant).
 


OzMike

Well-known member
Oct 2, 2006
13,281
Perth Australia
You can hardly call an unbeaten run in 2012 inconsistent.

You obviously haven't understood a word I said have you.
I am talking about on a game by game basis.
I also think a percentage of the fact that we are still unbeaten in the league is pure luck, but it is nice that the luck is going our way.
Cracking the playoffs will be tough as we have to rely on teams above us tripping up, but we should also despatch the 'cannon fodder' more efficiently.
 




You obviously haven't understood a word I said have you.
I am talking about on a game by game basis.
I also think a percentage of the fact that we are still unbeaten in the league is pure luck, but it is nice that the luck is going our way.
Cracking the playoffs will be tough as we have to rely on teams above us tripping up, but we should also despatch the 'cannon fodder' more efficiently.

Isn't it a bit of guesswork to call our run "pure luck", when you are in Perth, Australia?
Or do they have a Brighton and Hove Albion over there as well?
 


OzMike

Well-known member
Oct 2, 2006
13,281
Perth Australia
Isn't it a bit of guesswork to call our run "pure luck", when you are in Perth, Australia?
Or do they have a Brighton and Hove Albion over there as well?

There is Brighton and Hove Albion here every weekend and some early mornings midweek during the season and there was also the same when I went to watch them week in and week out for 33 years before coming here.
There is luck involved in most things in life, good and bad, I am just commenting on the fact that at the moment we are having a dose of the good part.
No doubt some bad will happen, but I hope that it keeps to a minimum.
 


B.W.

New member
Jul 5, 2003
13,666
I like to be objective when it comes to Gus, but you simply can't argue with the success he has achieved for our club... yes, he has made mistakes, especially with his press dealings IMHO, but to knock what he has achieved on the pitch beggars belief...
 




Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
Gus is still learning but he still has a lot to prove here IMO.

Absolute bollocks. He has nothing to prove for us. He has done a phenomenal job considering the squad he took over and the subesequent budgets.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
I like to be objective when it comes to Gus, but you simply can't argue with the success he has achieved for our club... yes, he has made mistakes, especially with his press dealings IMHO, but to knock what he has achieved on the pitch beggars belief...

Spot on.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
The consistency of being unbeaten since Jan 2nd and getting 1.71 points per game in 131 games is more than luck imo.
 




Adsgull

New member
Feb 27, 2012
173
Southwick
I think Gus is good at the moment and I hope he continues his progress to become a top manager. Yes he has landed on his feet with Mr Bloom but that shouldn't go against him. He is the one looking at players to make us better and lookin to the future with the youth systems. I would love it if Gus took us to the prem and I wouldn't be to pissed off if he left either as that's the way football works. Gus has been lucky to a certain extent but then you tell me a manager that hasn't been at sometime or another. I love the fact he is learning his trade with us and we get the benefit of his new ways of doing things.
 


There is Brighton and Hove Albion here every weekend and some early mornings midweek during the season and there was also the same when I went to watch them week in and week out for 33 years before coming here.
There is luck involved in most things in life, good and bad, I am just commenting on the fact that at the moment we are having a dose of the good part.
No doubt some bad will happen, but I hope that it keeps to a minimum.

They say you make your own luck. Or force it by outplaying the opposition.

I don't like to believe that we get a spate of several performances wherein we are bless-ed with some ethereal waving of a deity's great hand, to the tune of goals and points mounting up.
 


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