I just love our Gus

[bravohotelalpha]

I love his interviews and honesty. I love what he has achieved for my club and in a few years time, if he is managing a top four Prem Club? we can all look back and say "he managed Brighton". We need to savour every moment that we have 'Gus Poyet'! This man is pure 'gold'

Well I'm with you all the way cornish, just where would we be without Gus and tony - you only have to look at clubs up and down the land to see what we could be facing. Gus poyet m'lord !!!

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Has Gus achieved anything? Did you miss the last few years where he has taken us from bottom few of League 1 to playoff chasing in the Championship? All the while rebuilding the club from the kids upwards.

He said the ref was bad for both sides, and didn't argue with the handball.

Some people seem so keen to have a dig at Gus, just don't understand it. No he's not perfect, but he's by far the most technically advanced manager we have had in my lifetime (16-17 years watching the Albion) and is learning more all the time

I do like Gus i just think why even mention the pitch or the ref?
I beg to differ on most technical manager, some may laugh but i would put both Wilkins and Hinshlewood ahead of him,but they both lacked the statue what some fans and players need to support them.

He didn't blame the ref. And by the sounds of it, the pitch was awful but he didn't blame the pitch either - he commented on it. He started his interview with "We didn't play well."

Why comment on them then?

Achievements like winning a division by a record number of points, clean sheets and weeks at the top of the table in his first full season as a manager? Did Tony pick the team, train the players and tdo the dressing room talks? If so you know more than anyone else.

You may think he is the messiah but he has had more backing with bloom at the helm and a spanking new stadium full of fans behind him i really do feel he has had it easy compared to any of our managers over the last 14years.

Absolutely this.
Not with you Cornish, he's the one who might look back and say he once managed a top club when we were League 1, rather than us boasting having once had his services.
Gus is great, I like the man, but let's not magnify his stature more than he warrants. He has not set a new standard for Brighton, his tactics are often poor or one-demensional, and we are still getting outplayed occasionally by lower-league (and non-league!) cloggers.
ADKINS would have a better CV at this moment in time.

You say it as i see it too.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

You may think he is the messiah but he has had more backing with bloom at the helm and a spanking new stadium full of fans behind him i really do feel he has had it easy compared to any of our managers over the last 14years.

Although Bloom was putting money in whilst Dick Knight was chairman. Yes, Gus has had more funds than other managers in the last 14 years but he didn't have the highest budget in League One last season and has approx the 13th or 14th highest budget in the Championship so by my reckoning, he is over achieving. Funds don't buy success, just ask Leicester.

 

[Steve Foster]

Seems to be a bit of a mixed bag on how good/great Gus is.

Given the backing he has had from TB, he is in a more fortunate position than his predecessors. Winning League 1 was great & we are doing really well this season, without really dominating & destroying teams.
Personally I will be very content if we finish 7th this season.

As for Gus his tactics are too predictable & defensive. He brings on the subs too late IMO & some of his decisions seem strange. Still learning I guess.

Verdict: Good manager (not great)
Marks out of 10: 7 1/2
Ranking as a Manager: 6th (since I have been watching the Albion since the mid 70s.......hopefully he will make the top 3 if we go up.

 

[The Large One]

I do like Gus i just think why even mention the pitch or the ref?

Because he feels it's a factor in how we played - not the determing and over-riding reason.

I beg to differ on most technical manager, some may laugh but i would put both Wilkins and Hinshlewood ahead of him,but they both lacked the statue what some fans and players need to support them.

You've go that almost right.

Most will laugh, not 'some'.

You may think he is the messiah but he has had more backing with bloom at the helm and a spanking new stadium full of fans behind him i really do feel he has had it easy compared to any of our managers over the last 14years.

You think getting to this position has been 'easy'? .

Having a rich chairman who is prepared to back has NEVER guaranteed success. Football is littered with vast financial backing culminating in little or no success (and indeed, having little financial backing earning back-to-back championships) What success he has achieved has been through hard work, good insight, excellent technical awareness, a propensity to learn, listen, watch and impart, a good leader, communicator and tactician.

And you insult his integrity by calling saying he's had it 'easy'?

 

[The Large One]

As for Gus his tactics are too predictable & defensive. He brings on the subs too late IMO & some of his decisions seem strange. Still learning I guess.

Or maybe it's you that's still learning...?

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Although Bloom was putting money in whilst Dick Knight was chairman. Yes, Gus has had more funds than other managers in the last 14 years but he didn't have the highest budget in League One last season and has approx the 13th or 14th highest budget in the Championship so by my reckoning, he is over achieving. Funds don't buy success, just ask Leicester.

But Tb was careful with his cash (rightly so) and was not going to throw his cash away until falmer was concrete. I have never said Gus is a bad manager he just is along way off being "The special one". Yes we are higher than our budget for the div, but i would expect to be higher in the first year at the AMEX with full houses, he will be over achieving when he can get us winning away. I don't know but i can only estimate we are underachieving away from our atmosphere packed 20,000 + crowds and that can only be down to the management factor.

 

[Horton's halftime iceberg]

I love Gus, think its amazing how far he has brought our club and team. We and I have never had it better. Glad I have a season ticket on the Gus Bus...

 

[Brightonfan1983]

Why comment on them then?

No idea mate. Maybe because he was asked?

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Because he feels it's a factor in how we played - not the determing and over-riding reason.




You've go that almost right.

Most will laugh, not 'some'.




You think getting to this position has been 'easy'? .

Having a rich chairman who is prepared to back has NEVER guaranteed success. Football is littered with vast financial backing culminating in little or no success (and indeed, having little financial backing earning back-to-back championships) What success he has achieved has been through hard work, good insight, excellent technical awareness, a propensity to learn, listen, watch and impart, a good leader, communicator and tactician.

And you insult his integrity by calling saying he's had it 'easy'?

Not the first time i have disagreed with you, but you really must take a step back at times and have a look more closely, i know you like to lick but i like to speak from my heart.
I am not going spend hours debating this, but i do back Gus it's just he far from being proven. He has been in the right place and the right time and is doing average at present, let's hope he progresses with us and doesn't get to ahead of himself.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

No idea mate. Maybe because he was asked?

But surely if asked, was the pitch a problem you would just say yes it was but we both have to play on it

 

[The Large One]

Not the first time i have disagreed with you, but you really must take a step back at times and have a look more closely, i know you like to lick but i like to speak from my heart.
I am not going spend hours debating this, but i do back Gus it's just he far from being proven. He has been in the right place and the right time and is doing average at present, let's hope he progresses with us and doesn't get to ahead of himself.

As you've shown time and again, it's you who lacks objectivity - especially regarding your blind kittenish esteem of Dean Wilkins.

I know you speak from the heart - it's your head that isn't engaged.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

But Tb was careful with his cash (rightly so) and was not going to throw his cash away until falmer was concrete. I have never said Gus is a bad manager he just is along way off being "The special one". Yes we are higher than our budget for the div, but i would expect to be higher in the first year at the AMEX with full houses, he will be over achieving when he can get us winning away. I don't know but i can only estimate we are underachieving away from our atmosphere packed 20,000 + crowds and that can only be down to the management factor.

We have only lost 3 games at home all season and yet you say we are underachieving and that you would expect to be higher in the first year? Why is that? Has that money been passed onto the manager yet for his budget?
Maybe [MENTION=12595]Acker79[/MENTION] can reproduce his averages per game per manager that he posted in the past where it showed that Peter Taylor was the most successful but Gus was catching up fast. I think you should also take into account that this is Poyet's first managerial post and he is learning as he's going along. Not one team has done the double over us this season in the Championship.

As for the pitch being a problem, yes it was the same for both sides and maybe a reason why Donny find themselves at the bottom of the table, because it's not doing them any favours.

 

[The Large One]

But Tb was careful with his cash (rightly so) and was not going to throw his cash away until falmer was concrete. I have never said Gus is a bad manager he just is along way off being "The special one". Yes we are higher than our budget for the div, but i would expect to be higher in the first year at the AMEX with full houses, he will be over achieving when he can get us winning away. I don't know but i can only estimate we are underachieving away from our atmosphere packed 20,000 + crowds and that can only be down to the management factor.

Good f***ing grief.

 

[Acker79]

Maybe [MENTION=12595]Acker79[/MENTION] can reproduce his averages per game per manager that he posted in the past where it showed that Peter Taylor was the most successful but Gus was catching up fast. I think you should also take into account that this is Poyet's first managerial post and he is learning as he's going along. Not one team has done the double over us this season in the Championship.

I don't think that was me. The only thing I can find in my file is the season stats for gus and slade and league position for the last 4-5 seasons. However, I just went over soccerbase and have this:

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I don't think that as me. The only thing I can find in my file is the season stats for gus and slade and league position for the last 4-5 seasons. However, I just went over soccerbase and have this:

Top statting once again Acker79 - you truly are the statto's statto!

 

[Vegas Seagull]

I don't think that was me. The only thing I can find in my file is the season stats for gus and slade and league position for the last 4-5 seasons. However, I just went over soccerbase and have this:

Good table
Oh dear, the two either side of him at the top were half inched on their prime, how long we got??
That Charles Webb chap put in a shift, deserves a statue

 

[Steve Foster]

I don't think that was me. The only thing I can find in my file is the season stats for gus and slade and league position for the last 4-5 seasons. However, I just went over soccerbase and have this:

Great table, however, Mike Bailey managed us only in the Premiership whilst of course Gus games have been in lower divisions.

Gus is good......but not yet great, in all things Albion.

 

[Acker79]

Great table, however, Mike Bailey managed us only in the Premiership whilst of course Gus games have been in lower divisions.

That's true. But, Mike Bailey had a top division squad playing for him. While his team played at a higher level, facing higher level opponents, his team itself was a higher level. Gus is facing championship teams with a championship squad. Last year he faced league one opposition with a league one squad.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

As you've shown time and again, it's you who lacks objectivity - especially regarding your blind kittenish esteem of Dean Wilkins.

I know you speak from the heart - it's your head that isn't engaged.

Regarding Wilkins you know and i know it was all about a personality clash and not ability.

Good f***ing grief.

Sorry i thought this was a forum for opinions, i am sorry i had to say Gus isn't that great yet, hardly crime of the year.