I don't mind Nigel Farage,but this !!!

[vegster]

Only someone feebleminded would even try to mis represent what I said. Oh and its treble browney points, Christian UKIP and anti-gay. Oh and I am defending his right to have crackpot views, there is a long history of this in a free society.


You see for years people have bemoaned career politicians, the suave suited cardboard cut outs that the likes of cameron and Blair etc represent. Yearning for a return to earthy grass roots politics. Individuals who dont contain a ticklist of "correct" views, beleiving in some quite potty stuff.

Well thats happened in the US and UK with the Tea Party and UKIP. Now the intelligent left would say well this is cool, we need our own Tea party etc. But no, what happens? Thie fingers point, the lower lip begins to tremble as the tears well up and the wail begins. I dont like their politics because that person doesn't conform totally to a narrow trench of political views.


Time to grow the **** up eh? You are just playing the establishment game, here personified by the BBC. but may the tinge of authoritarianism excites you? Well as long as its your opinions? I bet you it wouldnt be.

 

[Soulman]

Considering this is a conversation about UKIP it was not unreasonable to assume that when you said you would vote for "any" party to stand against the main three that you're vote MAY go to UKIP considering they are perhaps best place to damage to prospects of the "big three", something you appear keen to do. If that was wrong, I'm sorry for making such assumptions, but if my suggestion offends you than perhaps use less ambiguous language to leave no room for assumptions or accusations.

As for my initial question, I think it's a fair thing to ask anyone who protest votes. Do you care where your vote is going or are you just voting against the main three. Simple enough and in this case a protest vote for UKIP is still a vote for all those forms of intolerance previously mentioned, regardless of whether you voted for them out of belief in their political views of because you're disillusioned.

There you go again "I think it's a fair thing to ask anyone who protest votes."........Why is it a protest vote?. As stated, i for one am sick of the 3 main parties. These 3 parties have been in since i was born. In my opinion, and no need to assume, these 3 parties have taken this country downwards, especially in the last 20 years.
To me it is not a "protest vote" to vote for someone different, i'm not protesting just merely had enough of the same snouts in the same trough and want something different.
Oh and just in case you assume, i did not vote for UKIP, BNP, Greens either.
My vote was probably wasted, but if all the people did not just "protest" vote by switching from one of the main 3 to one of the other main 3, then perhaps the main 3 would realise that many are sick to death......of the main 3.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

So you would vote for a party that is fundamentally xenophobic, sexist and homophobic to prove a point? Isn't that a bit short-sighted?

EVERY party has it's xenophobic, sexist and homophobic members - just do a quick google against these traits and each party. Even the blessed Greens kicked out a homophobic member in Brighton and Hove.

 

[Jaguar_uk]

Can't we go back to the days when we had the Tories for the rich, labour for the poor and the liberals for brightonians?
Was all a lot simpler back then

 

[Footsoldier]

Only someone feebleminded would even try to mis represent what I said. Oh and its treble browney points, Christian UKIP and anti-gay. Oh and I am defending his right to have crackpot views, there is a long history of this in a free society.


You see for years people have bemoaned career politicians, the suave suited cardboard cut outs that the likes of cameron and Blair etc represent. Yearning for a return to earthy grass roots politics. Individuals who dont contain a ticklist of "correct" views, beleiving in some quite potty stuff.

Well thats happened in the US and UK with the Tea Party and UKIP. Now the intelligent left would say well this is cool, we need our own Tea party etc. But no, what happens? Thie fingers point, the lower lip begins to tremble as the tears well up and the wail begins. I dont like their politics because that person doesn't conform totally to a narrow trench of political views.


Time to grow the **** up eh? You are just playing the establishment game, here personified by the BBC. but may the tinge of authoritarianism excites you? Well as long as its your opinions? I bet you it wouldnt be.

You should take up politics because you'd get my vote

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

The irony is these right wing religious nut jobs have influenced censorship policies at the BBFC and Ofcom which affects us all. What's the betting after he is kicked out of UKIP he'll turn up as spokesman for Mediawatch ?

 

[Footsoldier]

Can't we go back to the days when we had the Tories for the rich, labour for the poor and the liberals for brightonians?
Was all a lot simpler back then

Have you just woken from a coma

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

EVERY party has it's xenophobic, sexist and homophobic members - just do a quick google against these traits and each party. Even the blessed Greens kicked out a homophobic member in Brighton and Hove.

I'm not talking about members I'm talking about beliefs that are integral to the party itself.

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

There you go again "I think it's a fair thing to ask anyone who protest votes."........Why is it a protest vote?. As stated, i for one am sick of the 3 main parties. These 3 parties have been in since i was born. In my opinion, and no need to assume, these 3 parties have taken this country downwards, especially in the last 20 years.
To me it is not a "protest vote" to vote for someone different, i'm not protesting just merely had enough of the same snouts in the same trough and want something different.
Oh and just in case you assume, i did not vote for UKIP, BNP, Greens either.
My vote was probably wasted, but if all the people did not just "protest" vote by switching from one of the main 3 to one of the other main 3, then perhaps the main 3 would realise that many are sick to death......of the main 3.

I wasn't saying YOU are protest voting I'm saying its a question people that DO protest vote should ask themselves. And FYI I didn't vote for any if the big three either.

 

[Soulman]

I wasn't saying YOU are protest voting I'm saying its a question people that DO protest vote should ask themselves. And FYI I didn't vote for any if the big three either.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I'm not talking about members I'm talking about beliefs that are integral to the party itself.

OK, so try pointing to the evidence that these are the beliefs of UKIP.

 

[Jaguar_uk]

Have you just woken from a coma

When people start on politics I wish I was in one.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The idea that a vote for UKIP is a vote for Labour makes me chuckle. Poetic justice for the Little Englanders

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

The idea that a vote for UKIP is a vote for Labour makes me chuckle. Poetic justice for the Little Englanders

In the Euro Elections in May a vote for UKIP is a vote that will see the Tories end up 3rd , behind UKIP Expect the media to be spreading muck about Labour and UKIP for the next 3 months or so.

 

[Jaguar_uk]

As time goes on nobody will be able to level any form of criticism against anybody else without causing a criminal offence so traditional politics will redundant.
Everybody will be legally required to have the same views.
Think about it, no more racism, no more homophobia, no more wars, no more industrial unrest etc, wow what a great idea, think I might write a novel about it, ah hang on, some bloke called Orwell already has, bugger there goes another money making idea!

 

[Albumen]

UKIP. hahahaha

 

[Footsoldier]

UKIP. hahahaha

Will smash the rest come May that is guaranteed!

 

[jgmcdee]

...literally "sold" this country down the river...

Sorry I haven't managed to get in to this thread at all because I can't for the life of me work out what you are saying here. It's been very distracting and I keep coming back to it. Do the literally and the double quotes cancel each other out and you needed them in there to meet some sort of character count target, or are you trying to make some sort of point by doing this?

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Funny how Ukip get interrogated on expenses but yet again people like Labour MPs seem to get away with it and Labour and Lib Dems banging on about Tories sending their kids to posh schools

I should be careful in keep posting Diane Abbot clips as I'll be called a racist because I'm picking on her because she's black.

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I understand what you are saying

 

[Westdene Seagull]

UKIP. hahahaha

And I'm assuming that you are one of the people that shouts "RACIST" the moment anyone suggests a serious discussion on immigration limits ?