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How will you vote in the next election?

Well?

  • New Labour but only IF we get Falmer beforehand

    Votes: 12 9.8%
  • New Labour regardless

    Votes: 31 25.2%
  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 28 22.8%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 19 15.4%
  • UKIP (included for Strike)

    Votes: 5 4.1%
  • Other, please state

    Votes: 10 8.1%
  • Spoil vote

    Votes: 7 5.7%
  • Not bother turning up to vote

    Votes: 11 8.9%

  • Total voters
    123


Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
Richie Morris said:
Yorkie, I did not say your choice was silly I said that to make a decision on who to vote for purely on the basis of Falmer is silly which in my opinion it is.

Why does the fact you have been voting for ages change anything?

It's called experience. I used to feel at 23 I knew everything as well.
 






Brighton Breezy

New member
Jul 5, 2003
19,439
Sussex
Yorkie said:
It's called experience. I used to feel at 23 I knew everything as well.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

That is THE most stuck up pretensious post I have ever read.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

I do not think that at 23 I know everything. Far from it, there is plenty I do not know and am willing to learn but likewise there are people who I know who have been voting for years that have not got a clue about the difference between political parties.

I do feel I know a decent amount about British politics and different party approaches to our current social problems and the economy because I spent 4 years studying it but my knowledge is far from exhaustive and there are no doubt people on here better placed to judge. If they are has nothing to do with how many times they voted.
 


Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
I'm so glad you approve Richie. I feel much better knowing that.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,876
I would vote on local issues like Yorkie if I felt it made a difference to Falmer. That's what I believe MPs are actually there for - to represent the views of their local constituencies.

They left/right argument between the Tories and New Labour has gone, I've just read the finer points of what the labour party are planning with "animal rights protestors" and it's far more draconian than anything the Tories came up with.
 




Brighton Breezy

New member
Jul 5, 2003
19,439
Sussex
That is a very constructive argument Yorkie.

You have voted more so you know best and chose to ignore my post admitting I do not know everything and am far less knowledgeble then some on here because it shows me as prehaps not the 'know it all petulent youngen' you take me for.
 


Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
Ok so nothing to do with how many times I have voted.

Let me put it another way. I have lived through many Labour governments and Tory governments and under a Liberal and Labour council.

I am talking of experience in life not just how many times I have voted but how politicians have acted.

Learning about politics is not the same thing as having lived through the times.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,876
I think Ken Livingstone is a bit of a tool to be honest I agree generally with his politics, but I can't stand him and the way he operates.

If you saw the house and the money that American mate of his gets for "running" the underground well, you understand.. anyway...

Anyway, I wasn't going to bother with the London Mayoral elections but when I heard that Norris was neck and neck with Ken, I rushed down to the polling station and voted for the newt man.

Norris was going to abolish the congestion charge which I am totally 100% behind. I wasn't having that so Ken got my vote.

Local tactical voting, nothing wrong with that.
 




Brighton Breezy

New member
Jul 5, 2003
19,439
Sussex
No you are right Yorkie, when you live through the times you obviously develop irrational bias against certain parties that by no way reflects the policy of their current incarnation.

History has taught us that Labour are crap with the economy but are the current party not proving this wrong?
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,876
Yorkie said:
Ok so nothing to do with how many times I have voted.

Let me put it another way. I have lived through many Labour governments and Tory governments and under a Liberal and Labour council.

I am talking of experience in life not just how many times I have voted but how politicians have acted.

Learning about politics is not the same thing as having lived through the times.

.. if you are saying when they get a sniff of power they all act in the same way I would tend to agree.

Seem to be a few good MPs who seem to get it right - Simon Hughes for example.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,876
Richie Morris said:
No you are right Yorkie, when you live through the times you obviously develop irrational bias against certain parties that by no way reflects the policy of their current incarnation.

History has taught us that Labour are crap with the economy but are the current party not proving this wrong?

I don't think she's saying that at all. There is a school of thought that says that New Labour inherited a good economy from the Tories.
 




Brighton Breezy

New member
Jul 5, 2003
19,439
Sussex
clapham_gull said:
I don't think she's saying that at all. There is a school of thought that says that New Labour inherited a good economy from the Tories.

She is saying that over time, living through the rule of various parties you develope an appreciation of what they stand for.

I agree to a point.

But I think it is clear to anyone who different New Labour are to the last Labour government so it is not massively helpful to look at a parties track record in power.

What is more helpul is to look at their plans for policy implimentation today.

I know the argument about New Labour and economy they inherited, BUT you have to also remember that under that Conservative govt the pound was drastically devalued and unemployment was an all time high.

The best thing New Labour did was releasing the control of interest rates to the Bank of England. This helped rejuvinate the economy and stimulate economic growth which has continued throughout their term of office.
 


bigc

New member
Jul 5, 2003
5,740
the economy f***ed by the ERM disaster in September 1992

sure they inherited a good economy....but 8 years down the line and no big disasters.

one question for Michael Howard

did you threaten to over rule Derek Lewis?
:lolol:
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
Richie Morris said:
No you are right Yorkie, when you live through the times you obviously develop irrational bias against certain parties that by no way reflects the policy of their current incarnation.


err ... and YOU don't have a massive bias towards Labour then ???? Judging by many of your posts in this thread you could well be their next spokesman.

Quite frankly some of your posts here have neen potenious in the extreme ( especially towards Yorkies sensible approach to deciding who to vote for ). I would have a guess that you've never voted for anyone other than Labour and probably never will. What a "silly" way to vote. Weigh up the issues of the day against the policies of each party at the time and cast your vote - don't sell your soul to one party forever !
 






Tesco in Disguise

Where do we go from here?
Jul 5, 2003
3,930
Wienerville
Biscuit said:
yea, but lib dems are so useless at local level they'd be a disgrace nationally!

Oh and don't get me started on the bloody hippies!

really? where i used to live (st albans) lib dems stormed the local elections and everyone was crazy for them. also, the greens are needed more than ever. just look for any news and all you hear about is rising temperatures/melting ice caps/deforestation. we're f***ing up this planet and something needs to be done now. (and with the f***ing americans on board)
 


Strike

Sussex Border Front
Mar 12, 2004
5,051
Three Bridges, Crawley
Well richie thinks I am going to vote UKIP, but I want Labour out of power, and I havew doubts UKIP will get into power due to people thinking they area a single policy party. I think my vote at the mos between Tories and UKIP, don't get me started on Labour Lib Dems, the Clown Greens or BNP.
 






Brighton Breezy

New member
Jul 5, 2003
19,439
Sussex
Westdene Seagull said:
I would have a guess that you've never voted for anyone other than Labour and probably never will. What a "silly" way to vote.

I voted for the Lib Dems in my consituency in Hull because the MP was Dave Davis and never going to be ousted by Labour.

Tactical voting is ok but I was merely saying you should not vote on the basis of one thing like Falmer.
 




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