How much extra are you willing to pay for your season ticket?

[Barrel of Fun]

Would be no different to the rush hour on the tube etc in London, people would just have to turn up earlier to buy their tickets and queue for the trains

A few differences surely?

A great deal of commuters have season tickets.

The tube is infinitely better since the introduction of an Oyster Card system - Do we have such a system in place?

One has to be at Brighton station by 2pm to make the game in good time. Would it really be workable if one then has to buy tickets?

We have a fair amount of evening games, whereby it is not possible to turn up earlier and queue.

I think removing the travel aspect would be highly detrimental to attendances.

 

[Husty]

Only 7% saying Whatever it takes? Bad fans!!!

 

[Beach Hut]

A few differences surely?

A great deal of commuters have season tickets.

The tube is infinitely better since the introduction of an Oyster Card system - Do we have such a system in place?

One has to be at Brighton station by 2pm to make the game in good time. Would it really be workable if one then has to buy tickets?

We have a fair amount of evening games, whereby it is not possible to turn up earlier and queue.

I think removing the travel aspect would be highly detrimental to attendances.

Southern has the Key the same as Oyster - it could easily be done

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The tube is infinitely better since the introduction of an Oyster Card system - Do we have such a system in place?

Yes.

 

[Bozza]

Compulsory ticketing for the trains between Brighton and Falmer just will not work with the current setup. Those claiming it will have their own agenda and are best ignored.

However, it could work if ticketing barriers were in place as part of the queueing system for Falmer trains at Brighton, but that's not the case. The ticketing checks will have to be performed at Brighton rather than Falmer because given the size of Falmer Station, the gates HAVE to be open to let everyone pass through quickly as each train arrives. If people were ticket-checked at Falmer, it would only take a few ticketless people to create a dangerous situation with possible crushing.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Southern has the Key the same as Oyster - it could easily be done

Yes.

We don't have a system that covers all stations.

 

[Beach Hut]

Compulsory ticketing for the trains between Brighton and Falmer just will not work with the current setup. Those claiming it will have their own agenda and are best ignored.

However, it could work if ticketing barriers were in place as part of the queueing system for Falmer trains at Brighton, but that's not the case. The ticketing checks will have to be performed at Brighton rather than Falmer because given the size of Falmer Station, the gates HAVE to be open to let everyone pass through quickly as each train arrives. If people were ticket-checked at Falmer, it would only take a few ticketless people to create a dangerous situation with possible crushing.

It would and can easily be done with the Key, bearing in mind I see this 4 days a week in London with Oyster cards it works perfectly

 

[pottert]

I actually think the club should be commended for not cashing in on as many season tickets as they can but instead leaving a decent number of seats available on a match by match basis - many of which will be used for the deals to attract new fans or help those who can't afford to come regularly or rely on price deals.

It might leave some people on a season ticket waiting list, but it also allows people who cannot afford that to still attend.

The club sold as many ST as they could,yes they left a number of seats for game to game purchases but if they could have sold another 1000 ST they would have done.

I would just like to say that the renewals for this season were done before the end of last season,how many of us would have still renewed our ST if we knew how the season would end & what was soon to follow.

Ultimately prices are effected by results on the pitch.

 

[Bozza]

It would and can easily be done with the Key, bearing in mind I see this 4 days a week in London with Oyster cards it works perfectly

Oyster works with a group of people who are well-versed in using it, and make similar journeys frequently. There are many tens of thousands less frequent travellers who travel in London every day on a PAYG basis.

Regardless, I don't believe any 'touch in, touch out' system will work for Brighton to Falmer journeys on a match day due to the limitations of Falmer Station. In the immediate pre and post match rush, I believe Falmer will only work safely if people are free to move onto and off the platforms with no form of ticketing validation. You may feel differently, but you have your own agenda you've been peddling for years now.

 

[Husty]

But there are people that will take our places,

Are there? If we don't go up this year (likely) and prices go up (likely) then I cannot see the club selling more season tickets than it has this season. We're on 24000 odd now so there's already capacity for season tickets should the demand be there but these seats remain unsold game after game. If people don't renew I highly doubt that they will be replaced week in/out next season.

Additionally it's worth remembering that we have a large number of STHs who are not particularly local. I would imagine it's a similar proportion to a team like Chelsea, we attracted them via the excitement around the Amex and I expect the vast majority of them will be even less tolerant to a price rise considering they are already spending a lot of money to travel to games and likely can't make a lot of games. The club gets a seasons worth of money from a lot of people (I'm going to guesstimate 1500) who may only go 10 times a season if that. If we lose these people it's not like their going to be going every other week anyway, they'll just be lost.

 

[Stat Brother]

Are there? If we don't go up this year (likely) and prices go up (likely) then I cannot see the club selling more season tickets than it has this season. We're on 24000 odd now so there's already capacity for season tickets should the demand be there but these seats remain unsold game after game. If people don't renew I highly doubt that they will be replaced week in/out next season.

Additionally it's worth remembering that we have a large number of STHs who are not particularly local. I would imagine it's a similar proportion to a team like Chelsea, we attracted them via the excitement around the Amex and I expect the vast majority of them will be even less tolerant to a price rise considering they are already spending a lot of money to travel to games and likely can't make a lot of games. The club gets a seasons worth of money from a lot of people (I'm going to guesstimate 1500) who may only go 10 times a season if that. If we lose these people it's not like their going to be going every other week anyway, they'll just be lost.

True.

There will definitely be pressure on the pitch if there's even a little dip in S/T sales, or the average number of fans actually at the game.

I don't think the club has really gone out of it's way to promote S/T sales.
There's plenty of people picking up the new deals, and they will be targeted to fill the S/T spaces.

A cracking season, next year, could be a win win for the club.
I'm not convinced those giving up S/T will be able to walk away from a winning team playing attacking football, and will end up paying top dollar (and eventually more than their S/T) to still go.

Obviously if the reverse is true, and then the club run the risk of the downward spiral beginning.

 

[Dr. Notthenineo'clocknews]

i'm out of it next season, I haven't had a pay rise in 5 years. Even if we go up, I can't afford it

 

[Bold Seagull]

It's not just the steady price rises that are upsetting the people I go with, it's also the steady erosion of services etc. that we're experiencing year on year.

The stopping of the East Stand Brasserie post match for example is a real shame. This was a real bonus to wait out the queues in a nice environment, and gave a real sense of being valued by the club opening up this facility. I've not seen any real explanation of why this has stopped. They always took a fortune at the bar for at least an hour or so after the game.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

It's not just the steady price rises that are upsetting the people I go with, it's also the steady erosion of services etc. that we're experiencing year on year.

The stopping of the East Stand Brasserie post match for example is a real shame. This was a real bonus to wait out the queues in a nice environment, and gave a real sense of being valued by the club opening up this facility. I've not seen any real explanation of why this has stopped. They always took a fortune at the bar for at least an hour or so after the game.

It's being converted into Dick's Bar 2 with kids allowed.

 

[fozzie's headband]

I pay by Direct Debit but plan to pay in one chunk next season, so in theory any increase might not impact me too much, depending on the price of the outright purchase compared to the DD.

I sit ESU, anyone remember the figure for the one off cost vs the £52.18 per month DD?

You don't pay any extra for paying by direct debit so there is no incentive to pay in one lump sum.

 

[brightonbaz]

FFP rules = outgoings cannot exceed income (in a nut shell). One of the largest outgoing = wages (player wages the biggest bit) . . Staffing levels (outside of players) already reduced to cut wage bill. To balance fans either pay more or players take less (or club seeks alternative income other than owners putting their hands in their pockets). Increases in ticket prices alone is not the answer. Other income needed or cut existing outgoings!

Players take less.......mmmmmmmmm
Fans pay more..........always

 

[leigull]

The stopping of the East Stand Brasserie post match for example is a real shame. This was a real bonus to wait out the queues in a nice environment, and gave a real sense of being valued by the club opening up this facility. I've not seen any real explanation of why this has stopped. They always took a fortune at the bar for at least an hour or so after the game.

Wasn't it being converted to a 'Sports Bar' or something?

 

[crodonilson]

FFP rules = outgoings cannot exceed income (in a nut shell). One of the largest outgoing = wages (player wages the biggest bit) . . Staffing levels (outside of players) already reduced to cut wage bill. To balance fans either pay more or players take less (or club seeks alternative income other than owners putting their hands in their pockets). Increases in ticket prices alone is not the answer. Other income needed or cut existing outgoings!

Players take less.......mmmmmmmmm
Fans pay more..........always

Both will need to happen Barry man.
I think a price rise is inevitable but the club will listen to fans and limit it as much as possible so I expect it to be in the region of 5-10% which seems fair.

 

[PWA]

The club should note these poll results.

 

[Footsoldier]

Seems Paul Barber has registered 21 times.