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[Politics] How many seats will the Tories get ?







Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
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If you could bet on 120-170 I'd go for that.
We all know Starmer is in but the tories will get far north of 100 seats maybe near 200 and bookies got this badly wrong
 




GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
49,188
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Who really cares? Labour will win the election with a comfortable working majority. Neither the Lib. Dems. or Reform will be in a position to offer the Tories a chance of forming a coalition government. Just as well, IMHO.
Here's hoping they don't fcuk it up ............... hope being the operative word.
 


Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
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John Curtice is talking somewhere between 50 & 150. If forced to guess, I would think that the 'shy tories' previously underestimated by some polls are likely to be balanced by increased determined tactical voting and that he won't be much out. I think they'll just break three figures. In 97 Blair won a 179 seat majority on 43.2% against Major's 30.7%. Starmer is polling a little below Blair's percentage, but Sunak is well below Major's. The squeeze from the right from Reform has been spoken about a lot, but the Lib Dem squeeze from the left in the southern strongholds will likely be a much bigger factor in terms of lost tory seats. There is not a huge appetite for this Labour Party, but the anti-tory vote is stronger than I have ever known it. I know multiple lifelong Daily Mail reading tories who have said that they just cannot bring themselves to vote for them.

Survation are predicting that this Parliament could also change it's make up in other radical ways. The percentage of women MPs could go from 34% to as high as 42%. Not parity, but as near as it's ever been before. Statista are also saying that a three figure Labour majority would be likely to make this the most ethnically diverse UK Parliament ever. Given the number of MPs that didn't stand this time and the comments made about the working environment by some of the younger female MPs that left, let's hope that whatever the political make up on Friday, the place can be more representative of the country and a less toxic environment for all who work there.
 




Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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Shouldn't this thread be titled 'Was that 200 seats lost or 150 seats gained'?
And most Tories leaving the count five minutes before the announcement to get on Indeed..
 


Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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I'll be surprised if it's below 100 and also close to 200.

I suppose what I'm saying is it will probably be about 150.

But who nose ?
 






kevo

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Mar 8, 2008
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I think it will just be below three figures - 95.
 




Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
12,138
I definitely agree that there are many tory voters, who aren't accounted for in the polls.
However I don't think there is much motivation for them to vote, this time around.
There are a lot of factors for this.
  • Starmer doesn't scare them enough
  • The result is already conceded
  • Reform is an option
  • Sunak doesn't inspire confidence
  • The Tories don't deserve it
These factors will prevent the silent Tories vote from having much of an impact at the polling station.
 




Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
12,138
Can somebody ELI5 how to actually read this?
It's a betting exchange market.

You can either BACK or LAY against the results listed
.
BACK (Blue column) is the traditional bet - i.e. you are betting on the result happening. The numbers represent the multiplier for your bet.
LAY (Pink Column) is a bet that the result does not happen.

In a LAY bet you are taking the role of the bookmaker and you have to commit to cover the winnings of the result happening.
i.e
for the 0-49 @ 15 Market , a £10 LAY bet, requires the punter to pay £140 liability bet to cover the £10 bet.
If they are correct they take the £10 as their winnings.

The £value under each odds represents the maximum amount of money available in the market.
i.e the amount a punter can currently place a BACK bet on 0-49 = £15 - or LAY = £11


The difference between the odds represents the bookies margin.

For example to cover both results
£10 Back bet on 0 -49 @13 - Costs £10 to win £120
£10 Lay bet on 0-49 @15 - Costs £140 to win £10

The bookie takes £140 to cover any bets they would have to pay out at £120
 
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MJsGhost

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Jun 26, 2009
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My Instinct says 107 seats, but that doesn't allow for the dishy Rishi factor.

The smartest man in the room is a smooth operator and just so damned SMART.

87.
 












Blue3

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Jan 27, 2014
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A terrible night would be 60 and just a really bad night would be 150 so I am going to punt for 93
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,025
If you could bet on 120-170 I'd go for that.
yeah, the 150 cut-off in the markets make it bit tricky. playing around with Electoral Calculus only have to be a few % more than polling to get out of the sub 100 to the ~150 level. but tricky to decide which side, i think the polls are off but not so off.
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,831
Uffern
I think the Tories will get about 135/140
I also think Reform will get more than predicted. I can see them picking up around 20/30 seats. Polling companies have accounted for shy Tories but I don't think they've got a handle on shy Reformers.

I think the Labour majority will be under 100, not the 'supermajority' that people are talking about
 


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