- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,776
This will, quite rightly be merged with the Brexit thread, but maybe it could be left for a few days to see the results ?
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[Politics] How long will Brexit continue to dominate British Politics ?
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& NSC.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,019
decades
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,269
Well we joined in 1973 and the Eurosceptics never accepted it, we've sniped at the sidelines ever since, so my guess is another 20 years at least.
Back in 2015 the Lib Dems had been virtually wiped out, so the opportunity to be the unequivocal party of Remain gives them a permanent foothold back into British politics. I can't see them abandoning their Remain position even if there's a soft Brexit, and that will also be the case with the SNP, Greens and Plaid, which I can only see growing stronger over the next 10 years. So if you're looking for an alternative to the big 2 parties - and many will be - it is likely to be a Remain / Rejoin party.
Years if we leave. Decades if we don't.
BBassic
I changed this.
- Jul 28, 2011
- 13,057
It'll be decades either way I think.
If we leave we've still got X years of trade negotiations to figure out, which presumably has to get through Parliament as well and we've seen in the last few years how that works out.
Tacked on to that we'll have X GEs in which Back In / Stay Out will inevitably be at least a discussion.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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there will be people claiming Brexit caused the collapse.
Silverhatch
Well-known member
A generation at least - so 15 years at least.
Trufflehound
Re-enfranchised
50 years - the one and only time JRM didn't lie.
Pavilionaire
Well-known member
- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,269
Why is it going to collapse? Since 2016 the 27 have been more united than ever. Arguably by removing the bad apple the institution is now less likely to collapse than when we were in it.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Minutes...but lots of them
The EU won't collapse.
Incidentally, I can (just about) understand people wanting us to leave the EU, but why would anyone want the EU to collapse? The last time we had the likes of France, Germany, Italy, and the UK as independent rivals, some of whom with an eye on annexing the Sudetenland, it took a world war and the creation of what has become the EU to create a longlasting peace.
FFS.
studio150
Well-known member
Decades
Other way round if anything. If we leave we've got the long process of rejoining to look forward to.
Trufflehound
Re-enfranchised
In general it appears to me to be people with Shit Life Syndrome who desperately want others to fail so that their own lives don't seem so miserable by comparison.
A bit like the reason many people watch Eastenders, but real.
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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Absolutely. Of course. Just a matter of time. As was explained to us, support for the EU among the 27 remaining states would collapse the moment mighty England left the Union.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...eland-portugal-eurosceptic-poll-a8888126.html
RossyG
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- Dec 20, 2014
- 2,630
Here’s what Jeremy Corbyn had to say about that.
https://www.theredroar.com/2019/02/...second-irish-referendum-in-unearthed-footage/
If we don't leave we'll have the ERG, the sperms of Farage, and people like droopy on NSC going on and on about it, with the Fail and Excess fuelling the stink-pot with regular dollops of shit, forevermore.
If we do leave....actually you are right. I can't see how it will ever be resolved - we already have a labour shortage on the farms of Kent....the Irish border.....passport checks at Dover....perpetual 'operation stack'....and that's before we consider the hit we may get from general complications with trade and investment.....perhaps we won't have endless conversation about Brexit itself, just endless conversation about falling living standards, social unrest, etc.
When I think about it, I still can't imaging us leaveing because I can't see how we can. And yet the fat oaf and his 'let's get Brexit done' makes it sould like we will all be basking on the Sunny Uplands by May. How I hate being lied to. Anazing how effective it can be, though, when a conscience-free psychopath is peddling the lies.
So, having given my head a wobble, yes, decades either way.