How do you think Boris has handled it so far ?

[Klaas]

They know how to lockdown cities, I'll give them that. But we'll never know what's really been happening in China.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ies-at-home-alone-after-relatives-quarantined

Indeed.
I'd rather have the Koreans or Taiwanese in charge right now. (Would have said Singapore too but not sure what the nationality is, Singaporeans? Singaporese? Singaporish?)

 

[BN41Albion]

Indeed.
I'd rather have the Koreans or Taiwanese in charge right now. (Would have said Singapore too but not sure what the nationality is, Singaporeans? Singaporese? Singaporish?)

First one

And, I agree.

 

[Triggaaar]

Boris has complete faith in Cummings, cummings believed that herd immunity was the way forward, giving us a different approach to every other country. Then the complete uturn. It will be interesting to see if China will get a second wave of infections

They may well get a second wave, but I'd expect that to be preferable to just letting the virus rip through the entire country.

it feels like every thing we have done has been 2/3 weeks too late. I don’t believe the ‘fatigue’ part of the model, if we are isolating for 3 months we can isolate for 4.

I agree, although I'd say more than 2/3 weeks too late.

Johnson was balancing the economy with lives and looks to have made several mistakes already. These mistakes may cost 100,000s of lives.

Agreed again, and I think he has failed, but he's failed along with some poor advice from the supposed experts in the UK.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

It all sounds great but its bollocks, it'll be all these key workers that end up paying back all this cash for years to come whilst they're wages stand still.

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[Bwian]

63% approval rating

Is that Mail or Express readers?

My god there are some blind faith fckwits in this country if 63% of any group give him an approval rating.

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[Motogull]

Why isn't there an 'awesome' option? He's done brilliantly by not saying 'piccaninnies', 'letter boxes' or 'tank-top wearing bumboys' so far.

 

[e77]

I am no fan but ultimately he is guided by scientific advice which would have been the same had we had Corbyn, May, etc. in charge. Oddly I have a degree of sympathy that he hoped people would take advice and laws wouldn't be needed but too many people have ignored the advice and draconian laws are now inevitable.

 

[spring hall convert]

I am no fan but ultimately he is guided by scientific advice which would have been the same had we had Corbyn, May, etc. in charge. Oddly I have a degree of sympathy that he hoped people would take advice and laws wouldn't be needed but too many people have ignored the advice and draconian laws are now inevitable.

Rightly or wrongly, if Corbyn were in charge do you think the guiding principle would have been "how many extra lives are we happy to lose to keep businesses open?" OR "how do we save the most lives possible?"

 

[kevo]

I'm with you in spirit. The thing is, even with antibodies, you could be unwittingly transporting the virus.

Yeah I know. I think it woild be ok if you took the necessary precautions. That's why they want to roll this test out asap - so those people who have had it can return to a reasonably normal life and help those who are sick.

 

[beorhthelm]

I am no fan but ultimately he is guided by scientific advice which would have been the same had we had Corbyn, May, etc. in charge. Oddly I have a degree of sympathy that he hoped people would take advice and laws wouldn't be needed but too many people have ignored the advice and draconian laws are now inevitable.

indeed, i dont believe the powers currently exist to force the lockdown many are pleading for, the emergency legislation going through parliament is a very large document.

 

[e77]

Rightly or wrongly, if Corbyn were in charge do you think the guiding principle would have been "how many extra lives are we happy to lose to keep businesses open?" OR "how do we save the most lives possible?"

Do you really think Corbyn would have curtailed civil liberties quicker than Boris Johnson? We will never know but I suspect not.

 

[Motogull]

Yeah I know. I think it woild be ok if you took the necessary precautions. That's why they want to roll this test out asap - so those people who have had it can return to a reasonably normal life and help those who are sick.

Agreed. It would be a shame those notifying 'good' test results in due course weren't allowed to carry out an 'is this a nobhead' assessment with permission to lie if they thought 'yes'. Some people would think it meant they were no longer supposed to wash their hands etc.

 

[kevo]

Agreed. It would be a shame those notifying 'good' test results in due course weren't allowed to carry out an 'is this a nobhead' assessment with permission to lie if they thought 'yes'. Some people would think it meant they were no longer supposed to wash their hands etc.

I think they'd need to offer strict guidance and advice to anyone who tested positive in the test, otherwise we'd be back to square one.

 

[spring hall convert]

Do you really think Corbyn would have curtailed civil liberties quicker than Boris Johnson? We will never know but I suspect not.

I'm convinced he would have done as he would have been less bothered about being open for business and would have been more ready to learn the lessons form the places that have managed to keep this contained in order to save lives. The Sunday Times article today suggests a believably cavalier attitude to public safety in order to stay 'business as usual' that I'm confident would not have been JC's stance.

Whether folk would have paid attention or he would have got it right - who knows? But beyond a shadow of doubt he would have been more concerned about people's lives and less concerned about business - I think we've seen enough from him as leader of the opposition during this crisis to know this.

Johnson has taken a big punt with people's lives over the last couple of weeks. If he's got it wrong he has to be held to account.

 

[e77]

I'm convinced he would have done as he would have been less bothered about being open for business and would have been more ready to learn the lessons form the places that have managed to keep this contained in order to save lives. The Sunday Times article today suggests a believably cavalier attitude to public safety in order to stay 'business as usual' that I'm confident would not have been JC's stance.

Whether folk would have paid attention or he would have got it right - who knows? But beyond a shadow of doubt he would have been more concerned about people's lives and less concerned about business - I think we've seen enough from him as leader of the opposition during this crisis to know this.

Johnson has taken a big punt with people's lives over the last couple of weeks. If he's got it wrong he has to be held to account.

As someone pointed out, there will be the mother of all enquiries after this.

When you say business that includes a lot of small and micro businesses whose owners aren't that rich and will be deeply effected by this and probably go out of business. It isn't as easy as painting it as a business v the people argument.

With Jeremy Corbyn's history of indecisiveness I remain unconvinced he would have been better placed to make big decisions.

 

[beorhthelm]

Whether folk would have paid attention or he would have got it right - who knows? But beyond a shadow of doubt he would have been more concerned about people's lives and less concerned about business

you understand that business is important to people and their lives too? i dont understand where this binary attitude to everything comes from.

 

[spring hall convert]

you understand that business is important to people and their lives too? i dont understand where this binary attitude to everything comes from.

Very much so, I've been working flat out on 30 odd unique client scenarios this week - small businesses to huge corporates across a wide range of industries - I totally get the impact on business and the knock on effect on people's lives, better than many I imagine.

All I said was that the guiding principle would probably not have been how many lives are we prepared to lose in order to stay open for business as the Sunday Times article today indicates. For the last two weeks the no. 1 priority has not been public safety. We might get away with it, if we don't and this hits us harder in death toll / mortality rate in comparison to similar nations then serious questions will need to be asked about this government's priorities in a crisis situation.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Updated graphic:

https://twitter.com/witter_jim/status/1241475920659189760?s=19

~130 more deaths projected for today.

Significantly better than the projection today : 48

Let's hope tomorrow isn't a bad one, and we start falling behind the Italy model.

 

[spring hall convert]

Significantly better than the projection today : 48

Let's hope tomorrow isn't a bad one, and we start falling behind the Italy model.

Yep, I'm also liking what I'm hearing about this tangible support to keep those most at risk out of harm's way today.

 

[Normal Rob]

He has been shocking. Never worse than just now. Leaders should lead. His lack of decisive action will kill people.