How do you feel about England now

[Brighton Breezy]

Part of the reason I can't stand watching England on TV is the pundits. Townsend et al make me cringe and the ridiculous over-hyping of the players by Chiles etc makes me resent the players themselves, albeit unfairly.

 

[Ernest]

Boring football, dull manager, players who aren't good enough and at least if we don't qualify we are spared the usual nationalistic crap

 

[fcportaloo]

I used to watch England all the time on the telly, go to Wembley to see them from time to time and I have also been to a couple of away games. I was lucky to see the Euro '96 semi and I last saw England in the flesh in Russia in 2007.

My interest faded for the following reasons: 1) the sense of entitlement, misplaced self-belief and expectation without effort the players have 2) most of the players are utterly detestable figures and an embarassment to my country yet these morons represent my nation 3) the constant excuses and whining from the players 4) everything connected with the national game behind the scenes from grass roots to schoolboys to the top seems to disorganised, chaotic and fragmented. England will never succeed all the time the Prem, FL and FA pull in three different ways. 5) and finally the supporters need to look at themselves. Your accepting nature is as much to blame as say Rooney's inability on the world stage. English players are nowhere near as good as their foreign counterparts. You need to make this known instead of applauding every move they make and lapping up the shit they serve up as football and the nonsense they spout. Then maybe something will change.

I think 2) is my biggest reason. I could pick many examples but top of the pile is the fact a racist captained the team.

An excellent post, and sums up my feelings for our national side. I used to care A LOT about England too but now I feel as apathetic as the players. Totally fed up with the media acclaiming players such as Rooney as 'world class' when it's blatantly apparent he is not. He has more red cards than goals in WC tournaments. I think most of the players see the CL as the pinnacle of success these days, largely because that comes with more £££'s. If we qualify for Brazil that would be preferable, but we will have to listen to the same tired old cliches trotted out by players and pundits alike. With fans knowing that we will struggle to escape ANY group we are in (South Africa anybody?) before fading due to being tired/injuries/luck (never playing badly, or others being better). If we don't qualify, no bother either. At least we don't have to see St George flags flown by 'fans' interested in football every 4 years. tbh Montenegro would probably bring more to the tournament anyway.

Finally FIFA in their idiotic greed have deprived us of a proper WC in 2022 by deciding to host a tournament in 50ºc, this may well pressage the beginning of the end for the tournament's popularity and success

 

[Bean]

No and last night's result hadn't changed anything.

 

[Larry]

Never have.

 

[Scunner]

If anyone has had their opinion changed by last night's game in a negative way then you sir, are a mook and do not deserve anything other than approbation (look it up) if England do go on to do something useful...unbelievable, quite frankly.

 

[Icy Gull]

Absolutely this. Reading some of the comments on here makes me utterly ashamed to be a Brighton fan. The worst kind of plastics.

No matter how poor we are on the pitch, England and Albion forever.

I can't speak for others on lack of interest in England but I can and have accepted that Albion can be really really shit. It won't stop me supporting them, although I came close in MA mark 2s tenure. Until recently we often were dire but i could live with it as we had low paid journeymen and kids turning out and for the most part busting a gut to play for us. I don't accept that my national team should be so devoid of talent when you think of the obscene amount of money they earn and the fact that most of them come across as thick unlikeable twats who really don't give a toss and cry off playing for England at the smallest niggle.

Carry on being ashamed if you like. I went off England when Sven was the manager because we were so dull if reasonably sucessful so it's not just because we are now shit that I no longer care or bother to watch more than snippets.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I think the apathy has increased since Beckham was dropped from the squad. I see how England deteriorated in that second half, I read the reports of how Beckham has been playing for PSG and you have to believe we would have fared better vs Montenegro with Beckham in that central midfield role instead of Cleverley.

I know Lampard was available, but he - and no other player in the squad - possesses the nous and stomach for the fight that Beckham has.

In an ideal world Wilshere would be fit and I wouldn't be going there, but if Beckham can star for 86 mins in the PSG vs Marseille French Cup match then I'm sure he'd bring something to the return matches vs Ukraine and Montenegro. Such as selection would simply be a means to an end, i.e. increasing our chances of qualification.

 

[T soprano]

Can't believe the above poster is suggesting Beckham, FFS he couldn't even get into the Olympic squad maybe Kevin Keegan could make an international return

 

[Twizzle]

Yes, but we won't win shite.
England might excel one match but theyll lose the next badly as always.

 

[BadFish]

Absolutely this. Reading some of the comments on here makes me utterly ashamed to be a Brighton fan. The worst kind of plastics.

No matter how poor we are on the pitch, England and Albion forever.

Even in Brighton's darkest hours we knew that people were doing their very best for the club and trying to change our fortunes. The frustration with England is that this is blatantly not the case and fans feel they are being short changed because of it. Few of us on here would give up on our team just because we were crap and that is borne out by our support of Brighton over the last 15 years. I really don't give a shit if England are crap but the constant underachieving is caused by chasing money over the improvement of our footballers and national team and that needs to be called what it is. A ****ing disgrace.

I will foolshly continue to support England but i cannot do it with the same passion I used to because I have know that the powers that be in English football do not give a shit about the national team and will not make the changes needed to succeed.

 

[pasty]

As others have said, still have the same passion I've always had, but expectations are lower right now. Although, as I was only 17 months old in 66, Italia 90 and Euro 96 apart, there haven't been that many highs to be honest.

 

[grawhite]

Lost passion for the England team after the appointment of Roy Hodgson, wrong choice for the job.

 

[Baron Pepperpot]

I think we will struggle we have a poor manager and tonight in the 2nd half looked a shambles. Lescott and Smalling god help us!!!!

A lot of respected people in Europe would challenge your notion that we have a poor manager. We just don't have an outstanding team, and think of ourselves more highly than we ought.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Brilliant. So in the 90's when the Albion were one of the worst teams in the football league, we should have stopped watching them?

I didn't say stop supporting did I? I said demand change. Which, you may recall, is exactly what Brighton fans did to great effect.

Personally I have stopped supporting. I only have enough time and charity for one team and I'm sure a few multi-millionaire footballers dressed in white will survive without me.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

A lot of respected people in Europe would challenge your notion that we have a poor manager. We just don't have an outstanding team, and think of ourselves more highly than we ought.

England have under performed with all manner of managerial appointments. I know where the issue lies.

 

[Soulman]

Can't always win everything. Otherwise I'd be a Man united "fan" if I wanted it that way. England is my country, they're an alright team but not world beaters and that's just the way it is but I'll always support them

And me.

 

[Twizzle]

it isnt automatic.
"doing your country proud" is a requirement they rarely fulfil, bar a few players.
Rooney is the highest earner and he does work the hardest for England.

Too few capable players & too little heart, or talent.
We won't win a single thing, won't even progress past the 2nd round even if we do qualify.

 

[nicko31]

There is no doubt the situation with English (and home nations) football is in a shocking state. IMO the Premier League circus is gradually eating our game, the saga with Rio would have been unthinkable 20 years ago. Despite everything I still have passion for England and would put a World Cup Final victory over anything else in football

 

[Pavilionaire]

Can't believe the above poster is suggesting Beckham, FFS he couldn't even get into the Olympic squad maybe Kevin Keegan could make an international return

I don't see what the Mickey Mouse Olympic squad has to do with anything. Ancelloti is giving him game time at PSG, and not just as a sub for the last 15 mins. Things would have to desperate for him to be in contention, but I believe we've reached that point. I've never known expectation in the side to be so low, and there's a distinct lack of passion about playing for England.