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[Help] How do negotiate a job offer salary?



Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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The Fatherland
Ah, brilliant news. Good news is scarce these days so it’s very pleasing to read this.

All the best in your new job!
 




spongy

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Aug 7, 2011
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Burgess Hill
I'm still smiling and I get to hand in my notice tomorrow.... its the first time in a long time I've looked forward to going in to work on a Monday morning for a while...:)
 


maffew

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Dec 10, 2003
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Was watching for updates in this. Didnt bother posting as there are some much better placed than me to advise. Massive congratulations on getting paid more like what you must be worth and and good luck to you mate, hope you enjoy the new role importantly too
 








timbha

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Jul 5, 2003
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:thumbsup:
Personally id make sure i had a signed contract from the new co. first

This with bells on. It won’t do you any harm to tease yourself for a day or so, walking around with a silly smug smile on your face
 


spongy

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Aug 7, 2011
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:thumbsup:
Personally id make sure i had a signed contract from the new co. first

This with bells on. It won’t do you any harm to tease yourself for a day or so, walking around with a silly smug smile on your face

I have the engagement letter as a draft from the new company. After I've handed my notice in I can update the new company with my start date and go to meet them after work tomorrow to sign everything.
 


Hampster Gull

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Dec 22, 2010
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I have the engagement letter as a draft from the new company. After I've handed my notice in I can update the new company with my start date and go to meet them after work tomorrow to sign everything.

Ok, understand for sure but just flagging that comes with some risk given its draft. I’d go after work, sign the contract based on the date at the end of your notice period then hand in the notice the following day. I’m no lawyer though and am fairly risk averse in these types of situations
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
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I have the engagement letter as a draft from the new company. After I've handed my notice in I can update the new company with my start date and go to meet them after work tomorrow to sign everything.

:smile:
 


upthealbion1970

bring on the trumpets....
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Jan 22, 2009
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Ok, understand for sure but just flagging that comes with some risk given its draft. I’d go after work, sign the contract based on the date at the end of your notice period then hand in the notice the following day. I’m no lawyer though and am fairly risk averse in these types of situations

That’s a really good call
 


Herr Tubthumper

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I have the engagement letter as a draft from the new company. After I've handed my notice in I can update the new company with my start date and go to meet them after work tomorrow to sign everything.

And the first day when the pubs re-open bowl in waving a wad of notes and saying “loadsamoney” obvs.

:lolol:
 






Commander

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Apr 28, 2004
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Great news, and sounds like a fair offer. Well done.
 


surrey jim

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Aug 2, 2005
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I got the job.:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:

I'm literally shaking and properly beaming from ear to ear.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

I had a sneaky feeling they would offer me something but at a reduced rate hence why I posted this thread but they have offered £35k for 3 months rising to the full £38k thereafter.....

Thankyou all ever so much for contributing and helping. I'm completely made up and bouncing round the room.:rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave:

I owe you all a pint now I can afford to when we are all back at The Amex.:drink::drink::drink:

Thankyou all and especially to [MENTION=27447]Goldstone1976[/MENTION] for helping directly over PM.

I'm off to get drunk

:salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::salute:

Many congratulations
 




Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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I honestly have to say that I'm really chuffed withe responses on here. I was really nervous about posting this thread as I wasn't sure on which NSC would respond, it could have have gone 1 of 2 waya but thankfully it went the way I hoped it would.

I like to think I'm a good guy and of course my resignation letter will be professional, polite and humble, I'm not someone who is in the habit of being a ****** unless I have to be.

Even though working at this place has been tough its also been at the sharp end of te hnology and state of the art machinery to use.

With my bosses consent he allowed me to go on day release so i could fund going back k to college to get proper qualifications and get my level 2 &3 nvq and c&g qualifi actions and move on to HNC Manufacturing Engineering.

If I'd have had the opportunities and promises I had been promised I would have still been working there and happy but when he hired a new bloke (without the e perience) instead of promoting me I wouldn't have started looking elsewhere. The fact I had to train and tell someone how to do the job above me really hurt.

But I cN now move on with a far better wage at a new forward thinking company who seems like they'll appreciate iate me makes me feel great.

I shall sincerely thank him for what he did but its time to move on.

Bit late to follow up on the congratulations, but well done on getting the new gig :thumbsup:

Sounds very much like the right move at the right time and you're being financially rewarded for it too. Onwards and upwards.
 


Shropshire Seagull

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Nov 5, 2004
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Telford
Happy days !!

As per above, never feel the need to stick the boot in on your old boss, take the moral high-ground. Also, as mentioned, you can say it's better for your family [more dough] and one I've used before is "they're going to pay me closer to what I think I'm worth". Indirectly saying that you've had enough of them taking the pi$$.

One word of warning, if your current employer decides to salary match to tempt you to stay - a) why did it take your resignation to make them realise they were under-paying you & b) quite often it is not just down to being under-valued [in your eyes] that triggered you to get off your backside and find a better job. Most folk who decide to stay when offered a salary hike find they are still unhappy 3 months later and want to leave again.

New jobs are a step into the unknown and can [for some] be a bit daunting and cause apprehension. Embrace the opportunity - if it just happens to result in something worse than you currently have [bet it won't], it's not a lifetime commitment, you can always move on [with the added experience gleaned].

Good luck ...
 


spongy

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Aug 7, 2011
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Happy days !!

As per above, never feel the need to stick the boot in on your old boss, take the moral high-ground. Also, as mentioned, you can say it's better for your family [more dough] and one I've used before is "they're going to pay me closer to what I think I'm worth". Indirectly saying that you've had enough of them taking the pi$$.

One word of warning, if your current employer decides to salary match to tempt you to stay - a) why did it take your resignation to make them realise they were under-paying you & b) quite often it is not just down to being under-valued [in your eyes] that triggered you to get off your backside and find a better job. Most folk who decide to stay when offered a salary hike find they are still unhappy 3 months later and want to leave again.

New jobs are a step into the unknown and can [for some] be a bit daunting and cause apprehension. Embrace the opportunity - if it just happens to result in something worse than you currently have [bet it won't], it's not a lifetime commitment, you can always move on [with the added experience gleaned].

Good luck ...

I'm going to continue being professional throughout my notice.

The MD is a complete and utter **** most of the time. You never do anything right in his eyes, its his way at all times (even if your suggestion is quicker and easier). He comes along and starts having a go for no reason just spoiling for a fight. Which I learned very quickly to negate. People who haven't stood up to him get shouted down to and called "****ing idiots" everyday.

I really could fill NSC with tales of knobbery. When I've finally left I may start a "bellcheese for a boss thread" but I don't want to start it now my notice has just landed.

There is no way he could even get close to matching what I'm going to so wouldn't even contemplate staying.

I've always told myself that when I start going to bed at night or waking up in the morning and thinking "I dont want to go to work today" then its time to move on and look for a new challenge.

I lasted 8 years before those thoughts started creeping in and it was only promises that had been made that were keeping me there. When the new programmer was hired back in March in front of me I knew the writing was on the wall. I've been looking casually but as I'm secure as can reasonably be I havent jumped at the first opportunity. The patience game has definitely paid off.

The new place may ask for references so can't turn into a wanker until I'm out and clear.
 


spongy

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Aug 7, 2011
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Burgess Hill
Well, it been my last day at Cirrus Laser, my notice period has been mental.

Handed in my notice on the Monday morning, (which go down very well at all), the MD took the letter and turned his back on me and didnt speak to me all day...., on the Tuesday morning Mrs Spongy called to say she needs a covid test (again) so I have to come home and isolate, it came back positive so had to do the whole 14 day isolation, return to work 2 weeks later to find they've only given me SSP so halved my wages in the most important payday before Christmas (thanks for that you ********).

The last 2 weeks the new guy who got the job I had been promised (and has no experience btw) has been on me constantly trying to learn things and I have obliged as its not his fault. Its taken 3 years of operating a brakepress and another 2 years to learn how to program offline and work out accurate bending allowances and tool selection, whats possible and most importantly to fix a mistake from someone before you. He has an AWFUL time ahead of him and they haven't bothered to replace me yet so all the specific knowledge also goes with me to the new job but at the end of the day its their loss not mine....

We've had a deposit for a house in the bank for nearly a year now but this opportunity gives me, Mrs Spongy, Ms Spongy and Little Ms Spongy the chance to buy our own house in the new year once I'm settled in.

Even though I've been pissed off there for the last 2 years overall the last 10 have been generally good fun and a good craic with the others on the shop floor (what shopfloor isn't fun with the right people (and it seems the MD still hasn't noticed the hole in the back of the forklift from when I tried to scare the crap out of a colleague when he was putting a pallet of steel back in the rack when I smashed it with a hammer:lolol:))

But its time to move on to a new challenge.

Actually feeling a bit philosophical and emotional right now as I've been working there for nearly 1/4 of my whole life. But the copious al ohol has made me write this.

I want to get back k to the football and have a drink, laugh, hopefully celebrate, but probably moan and a good time with my mates watching the team I love in the place I love with all you like minded folk..

Its what I am, its who I am. BHAFC. #TOGETHER
 






wellquickwoody

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Belated congratulations chap, and a have a very , merry Xmas too!
 


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