Papers, radio, TV all full of the housing crisis in the UK. We don't have a housing crisis, we have a population crisis. Far far too many people on our island and we just keep on concreting over the countryside and building more and more and more homes. Address the population crisis, not only in this country but worldwide, and we'd all be a lot better off.
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[News] Housing Crisis
- Thread starter goldstone
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Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Some German chap tried to address population issues in the 1940s, didn't go very well
doogie004
Well-known member
Careful you’ll be accused of homophobia, racist or some other bollox by the do gooders
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To be fair he's moved on from homophobia and racism to mass genocide and sterilising the poor. Good job [MENTION=144]goldstone[/MENTION] - do you and Beach Seagull play tag team at troll HQ?
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,002
are you volunteering?
Live by the sea
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- Oct 21, 2016
- 4,718
This is a complicated issue and multi faceted. House prices, immigration, education etc all play a part. Having a similar points system to Australia that encourages skilled workers rather than non skilled should help as the higher salaries paid to skilled workers should make it easier for them to either get on the property ladder or rent privately. The issue of not allowing large numbers of unskilled people into the country because we rely on cheap labour shouldn’t even be an issue, we should not have cheap labour , everyone should be paid a decent wage to enable them to live properly and be housed. Education is the answer not importing cheap labour.
Education is a major part. We have lots of working class and even a few middle people not well educated so they have far fewer choices in terms of careers and money earning potential which again has a knock on effect to housing. Some of these people rely on council housing which is not being built at a fast enough pace.
Loads more issues but this is the start of the things that need addressing to try to resolve this big issue. Everyone should have a home but everyone should also work hard if they are able to and be encouraged to make the most of their potential .
Education is a major part. We have lots of working class and even a few middle people not well educated so they have far fewer choices in terms of careers and money earning potential which again has a knock on effect to housing. Some of these people rely on council housing which is not being built at a fast enough pace.
Loads more issues but this is the start of the things that need addressing to try to resolve this big issue. Everyone should have a home but everyone should also work hard if they are able to and be encouraged to make the most of their potential .
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Taybha
Whalewhine
We have a lack of housing, however, we also have record levels of Air BnB etc properties, holiday homes, Pied de Terre's and second homes etc. We have record levels of city centre properties remaining empty as investment vehicles, there's a way to sort this, mainly through taxation, and I don't think anyone with the wealth to afford a holiday home or second home could object?
doogie004
Well-known member
Nope just how I see it
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He was Austrian, but it still didn't go very well
Live by the sea
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- Oct 21, 2016
- 4,718
That’s an unnecessary comment with racist undertones. Grow up !
Doesn't seem at all homophobic to me. Surely more gays would help solve the population/housing crisis.
SeagullSarge
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- Jul 8, 2012
- 230
What makes you think it’s “our” island?
We don't have a housing, population or immigration crisis.
We have a government dealing with money crisis - nothing new there.
There's plenty of housing to go round.
Whether it be unoccupied streets in Middlesbrough available for £10k
Or
Unoccupied streets in London available for £10bn.
There's a 1001 ways to distribute wealth, chances are many are actually cheaper on 'us' than the current system.
But all the time we (very much myself included) live in 'I'm Alright Jack' world, nothing is ever going to change.
We have a government dealing with money crisis - nothing new there.
There's plenty of housing to go round.
Whether it be unoccupied streets in Middlesbrough available for £10k
Or
Unoccupied streets in London available for £10bn.
There's a 1001 ways to distribute wealth, chances are many are actually cheaper on 'us' than the current system.
But all the time we (very much myself included) live in 'I'm Alright Jack' world, nothing is ever going to change.
Weststander
Well-known member
Love it or hate it, our population has risen by 8 million in record very short time. (May 97 to date).
We simply need to build far more homes, especially affordable’s through housing associations. It’s the only solution. All the nimbies (nicely housed residents and their vote chasing councillors) opposing every potential development in Brighton, Hove and Lewes for example, should not have the de facto power to delay planning proposals and applications for year after year.
We simply need to build far more homes, especially affordable’s through housing associations. It’s the only solution. All the nimbies (nicely housed residents and their vote chasing councillors) opposing every potential development in Brighton, Hove and Lewes for example, should not have the de facto power to delay planning proposals and applications for year after year.
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southstandandy
WEST STAND ANDY
- Jul 9, 2003
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Problem is that a lot of the so called 'cheap labour' such as carers and nurses from abroad are propping up these sectors in our communities. The carers my father had last year were on £14.95 an hour (English and European) and the company still went bust as they were'nt able to attract enough British employees and the applications from EU nationals went through the floor since the B word. Many of these roles aren't glamourous and even other care companies in the care sector who pay the official minimum wage can't get people to do this work. 110,000 care jobs currently unfilled according to the press as at last week.
It's easy to say we shoudn't have cheap labour but vast sectors in our country only pay the minuimum wage like supermarkets, other high street shops, recreational sector staff etc. I don't think in many of these sectors as mentioned above that foreign nurses, care workers, hospitality staff get less than the minimum wage and hundreds of thousands of UK employed people only earn the minimum wage. Sadly we have a shortage of our own nationals who want to to this sort of work. I accept that I'd love to see the minimum wage go up for such employees (as I personally hugely value our nurses and carers amongst many others) and the end to zero hours contracts but that's a whole other debate.
I'd also like to see an end to so many people having second homes - per Guardian newspaper quote "One in 10 UK adults, or 5.2 million people, own a second home, while four in 10 adults own no property at all, according to new research that highlights the stark divide in wealth that Britain now faces." This is a major problem together the number of empty homes left idle (216,000 as at 2019). It's not always about building more homes but using the ones we have in a constructive way.
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