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adrian29uk

New member
Sep 10, 2003
3,389
What a lovely world we live in. Hope the fu*(king tossers get whats coming to them, preferebly life inside, sharing a cell with 20 other inmates, which I very much doubt.

Problem is you have to be so careful these days.
I'm 35, but I have already started crossing the road when I see a group of youths. It's a shame you can trust anyone. These people are like bloody dogs.
 


simon195

New member
Sep 11, 2007
467
im afraid all the time you have a petty pitfall justice system in place then people will carry out these sort of acts...now what should happen to those guilty of this cowardly horrific killing, is they should be hung in public simple.. no ifs no buts. .. that way it sends a clear message to others wanting to attempt similar acts of totally pointless and mindless thuggery...
 


Poyetry In Motion

Pooetry Motions
Feb 26, 2009
3,556
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im afraid all the time you have a petty pitfall justice system in place then people will carry out these sort of acts...now what should happen to those guilty of this cowardly horrific killing, is they should be hung in public simple.. no ifs no buts. .. that way it sends a clear message to others wanting to attempt similar acts of totally pointless and mindless thuggery...

well said:bowdown:
whatever happened to the promised " tough on crime and tough on causes of crime" ?
:shrug:
 






cjd

Well-known member
Jun 22, 2006
6,311
La Rochelle
Hung for punching and kicking ? It is not clear whether he intended to kill the poor bloke - but this can happen when fists and boots are involved.

Oh I see.....it,s not clear whether they intended to kill him. Well, that makes it alright then............fortnights holiday at Butlins for all of them.
 


simon195

New member
Sep 11, 2007
467
Hung for punching and kicking ? It is not clear whether he intended to kill the poor bloke - but this can happen when fists and boots are involved.

yes hang em..its the only solution to all the senseless killings going on, if they did or not intend to kill him, at the end of the day they did, and for that mam, they need to pay a hefty price im afraid...
 






Dick Knights Mumm

Take me Home Falmer Road
Jul 5, 2003
19,736
Hither and Thither
That sort of attitude is why we are where we are today with violent crime.

Well the thing is Bushy - I suspect there are quite a few people on here who have been in punch-ups.

If you had hit someone and they fell and banged their head on the kerb say - should you hang ?

Until the full story is known - to call for hanging is a but - well, dense.
 


User removed 4

New member
May 9, 2008
13,331
Haywards Heath
Well the thing is Bushy - I suspect there are quite a few people on here who have been in punch-ups.

If you had hit someone and they fell and banged their head on the kerb say - should you hang ?

Until the full story is known - to call for hanging is a but - well, dense.
I understand what you're saying, but the full story is pretty much known already, bloke and his bird get picked on by large group of scumbags,bloke sticks up for his bird , and as a consequence is attacked by several members of the group, has his head booted like a football, dies 18 hours later, if the story comes out much different to that then my response woud be different, but im responding to the story as its been reported so far,if people started getting hanged for this sort of thing then less innocent people would be attacked.
 




Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,833
Uffern
im afraid all the time you have a petty pitfall justice system in place then people will carry out these sort of acts...now what should happen to those guilty of this cowardly horrific killing, is they should be hung in public simple.. no ifs no buts. .. that way it sends a clear message to others wanting to attempt similar acts of totally pointless and mindless thuggery...

That's right. Britain was a completely crime free state when we had hanging and the existence of Scuttler, Mohocks, Nickers, Hawkubees, razor gangs, racecourse gangs and Teddy Boys were all figments of the imagination. There were no murders, there were no Fenian/IRA terrorists and everyone lived in perfect peace and harmony with the flying pigs.
 




User removed 4

New member
May 9, 2008
13,331
Haywards Heath
That's right. Britain was a completely crime free state when we had hanging and the existence of Scuttler, Mohocks, Nickers, Hawkubees, razor gangs, racecourse gangs and Teddy Boys were all figments of the imagination. There were no murders, there were no Fenian/IRA terrorists and everyone lived in perfect peace and harmony with the flying pigs.
no matter how much you try to muddy the waters , from the turn of the last century to the mid seventies, britain was a far less violent place than it is now,a combination of "progressive" attitudes in our judicial system and a breakdown of discipline in schools and homes has led to this, what would be your solution ? "educating" people that this type of crime is wrong ?? jacking up taxes on alcohol thereby penalising innocent law abiding drinkers , there is only one kind of language these people understand, take the piss as much as you like , im right , and deep down you know it, it just offends your liberal sensibilities to admit it.
 




simon195

New member
Sep 11, 2007
467
look its simple, warn every person in country..if your caught breaking into someones property your be hung, caught carrying a knife your get banged up for min 20 yrs.. killing innocent person on street through being intoxicated or otherwise your be hung, caught drink driving your never drive again, and fined 10 grand... causing trouble on streets after after coming out club or pub then your be banned from every town in country for 5 yrs in the evenings... if you rape someone your be castrated given 5 yrs hard labour then hung in public... using mobile phone whilst driving banned from road for 10 yrs... now theres some of my ideas of tough on crime .. now who wants vote for me.. the NEW HITLER PARTY !!!! THE PARTY FOR JUSTICE
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,833
Uffern
no matter how much you try to muddy the waters , from the turn of the last century to the mid seventies, britain was a far less violent place than it is now...

Absolute rubbish. Britain is a much, much less violent place now than it was 150 or a 100 years ago. There huge areas (Seven Dials in Covent Garden, The Ratcliff Highway, Limehouse, Whitechapel and many more) that were virtual no-go areas for the police. Just read any Dickens novel and you can see how deeply ingrained this culture was.

Fear of youth crime is an ancient phenomenon. It was a trend noted by Stanley Cohen in his 1972 book Folk Devils and Moral Panics which pointed out that the people's perception of youth crime is far worse than the actual crime itself. No doubt there were Romans moaning how everything had gone to pot once Julius Caesar had died.
 


User removed 4

New member
May 9, 2008
13,331
Haywards Heath
Absolute rubbish. Britain is a much, much less violent place now than it was 150 or a 100 years ago. There huge areas (Seven Dials in Covent Garden, The Ratcliff Highway, Limehouse, Whitechapel and many more) that were virtual no-go areas for the police. Just read any Dickens novel and you can see how deeply ingrained this culture was.

Fear of youth crime is an ancient phenomenon. It was a trend noted by Stanley Cohen in his 1972 book Folk Devils and Moral Panics which pointed out that the people's perception of youth crime is far worse than the actual crime itself. No doubt there were Romans moaning how everything had gone to pot once Julius Caesar had died.
absolute rubbish, read my post, i said from the turn of the last century, you just cant admit that the permissive society as advocated by the likes of roy jenkins has failed, and you and others with so called liberal views are wrong.
 


Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
The less enlightened of you (that means you dimwits) may not understand this and will accuse me of being a lefty wimp but while I agree with harsher penalties, and what you won't grasp, is that harsher penalties do not reduce crime. It's a fact. It will rightly make the victims and relatives feel better but it does not reduce crime.

Why, well for many reasons but the main one being that rapists and murderers and people inclined towards violence simply do not comprehend the results of their actions. They feel no empathy to others and are incapable of judgement. These people have done, do, and always will commit horrific crimes.

America has the death penalty and one of the most violent societies in the Western World. In Johannasberg, one of the most crime ridden, violent places on earth, mob punishments such as castration, execution and beatings are meted out hourly yet the crime rate rises. Why?
 




User removed 4

New member
May 9, 2008
13,331
Haywards Heath
The less enlightened of you (that means you dimwits) may not understand this and will accuse me of being a lefty wimp but while I agree with harsher penalties, and what you won't grasp, is that harsher penalties do not reduce crime. It's a fact. It will rightly make the victims and relatives feel better but it does not reduce crime.

Why, well for many reasons but the main one being that rapists and murderers and people inclined towards violence simply do not comprehend the results of their actions. They feel no empathy to others and are incapable of judgement. These people have done, do, and always will commit horrific crimes.

America has the death penalty and one of the most violent societies in the Western World. In Johannasberg, one of the most crime ridden, violent places on earth, mob punishments such as castration, execution and beatings are meted out hourly yet the crime rate rises. Why?
This argument about the USA is regularly used, I'd like to know how you measure the number of people that WERE deterred by the death penalty ?
 


Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
This argument about the USA is regularly used, I'd like to know how you measure the number of people that WERE deterred by the death penalty ?

You can be alright sometimes Bushy but, my god you are a f***ing moron.
 


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