[Travel] Holiday plans this summer?

[Herr Tubthumper]

Indeed. People planning their summer holidays are just not thinking this through. This vaccination protects from severe symptoms. It does not prevent transmission. The world is not going to open up with no restrictions so people can sit on the beach.

We can expect the vaccines to reduce transmission though. My take is “normality” is some way off at the moment. It will take a while for the virus and the various mutations to be under sufficient control so a relaxation of rules can start. And even then it will be gradually.

 

[Beach Hut]

We can expect the vaccines to reduce transmission though. My take is “normality” is some way off at the moment. It will take a while for the virus and the various mutations to be under sufficient control so a relaxation of rules can start. And even then it will be gradually.

My take is countries like Spain, where tourists make up a massive GDP, cannot economically afford to miss another summer of limited tourism

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Israel is going to be interesting to see what they do once they hit vaccination targets

 

[Franky Small]

I struggle to see much changing before the summer at the earliest. The EU currently have quite a strict, and very small list, a handful of countries, which can enter the area for non-essential travel and I really can’t see this changing in a few months. Same with US. I appreciate this isn’t the world but Europe and US seem the most popular U.K. destinations.

I have a hunch that vaccination will hugely alter our travelling plans. Heard that the vaccine by Pfizer, one of the most popular in the world atm, has serious side effects and even had a number of fatal cases. This means that borders will still remain closed for a long long time. I won't be surprised if 2021 will be a copy of 2020.

 

[dazzer6666]

I have a hunch that vaccination will hugely alter our travelling plans. Heard that the vaccine by Pfizer, one of the most popular in the world atm, has serious side effects and even had a number of fatal cases. This means that borders will still remain closed for a long long time. I won't be surprised if 2021 will be a copy of 2020.

Link ? Only thing I’ve seen re bad side effects causing death is a Norwegian study relating to 13 over 80s.

 

[Beach Hut]

I have a hunch that vaccination will hugely alter our travelling plans. Heard that the vaccine by Pfizer, one of the most popular in the world atm, has serious side effects and even had a number of fatal cases. This means that borders will still remain closed for a long long time. I won't be surprised if 2021 will be a copy of 2020.

I am sure, if this is true, it would be all over the national press so as advised in the post above please post a link so all the medical profession are aware.

I have just phoned my Mum and Dad who are 94 and 92 and were vaccinated recently with Pfizer warning them what might happen as advised by a highly skilled medical person.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Link ? Only thing I’ve seen re bad side effects causing death is a Norwegian study relating to 13 over 80s.

Yep that’s all I’ve seen...I’m not sure I take much credence from a random persons hunch...no offence to them either

 

[drew]

I have a hunch that vaccination will hugely alter our travelling plans. Heard that the vaccine by Pfizer, one of the most popular in the world atm, has serious side effects and even had a number of fatal cases. This means that borders will still remain closed for a long long time. I won't be surprised if 2021 will be a copy of 2020.

Why do these sort of comments never come with a link?

 

[Franky Small]

Side effects in the Netherlands- https://news.ru/en/europe/netherlands-reports-around-100-cases-of-side-effects-from-pfizer-vaccine/
About mass media silence - https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212939.shtml

 

[dazzer6666]

Side effects in the Netherlands- https://news.ru/en/europe/netherlands-reports-around-100-cases-of-side-effects-from-pfizer-vaccine/
About mass media silence - https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212939.shtml

From your link (maybe actually read them next time) :

These cases are not particularly alarming. The vaccine has a minimal risk factor, with a few exceptions for elderly patients with poor health.

 

[dazzer6666]

Indeed. People planning their summer holidays are just not thinking this through. This vaccination protects from severe symptoms. It does not prevent transmission. The world is not going to open up with no restrictions so people can sit on the beach.

Eh ? I’m hedging my bets booking fully refundable or changeable trips at significantly lower cost. What bit have I not thought through?

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Side effects in the Netherlands- https://news.ru/en/europe/netherlands-reports-around-100-cases-of-side-effects-from-pfizer-vaccine/
About mass media silence - https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212939.shtml

They are some of the worst written articles I have had the misfortune to read, masquerading as journalism.

Conspiracy theory total claptrap.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Eh ? I’m hedging my bets booking fully refundable or changeable trips at significantly lower cost. What bit have I not thought through?

I didn’t mean you. I meant people in general. Sorry for not being clear

 

[dazzer6666]

I didn’t mean you. I meant people in general. Sorry for not being clear

No worries........[emoji106]

You’re probably right - some getting a bit ahead of themselves. Will be the same ones kicking off when they have cancel their trips and lose £000s.....[emoji849][emoji849]

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Australian border closures to remain ‘until 2022’ despite vaccines

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....1/news-story/3d84c7bd3dff15b132e53ebb7e014e7c

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...in-shut-until-2022-despite-vaccines-wbnxkq79d

 

[Ding Dong !]

Was ready to book a holiday in Barbados for August, but when I read their T&C's about having to change it put me right off. I could change but had to take the holiday by April 2022..........

UK for us this year again ! Much safer

 

[crodonilson]

I'll be holidaying in the UK, we used to cruise with celebrities but that is very much a thing of the past in this new world. Much rather holidaying where I know I can be in a covid secure, sterile environment with proper procedures and cleanliness.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Indeed. People planning their summer holidays are just not thinking this through. This vaccination protects from severe symptoms. It does not prevent transmission. The world is not going to open up with no restrictions so people can sit on the beach.

Barbados/St Lucia/Antigua amongst others have been doing just that for months now.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Got easyjet flights booked to Croatia in June. Was a bit of a gamble last summer because they were dirt cheap. Airbnb we can cancel easily.

At this point I can't see it happening but there's always a chance of restrictions begging lifted if virus levels drop in May like they did last year and a decent % of UK population is vaccinated.

 

[Easy 10]

I'll be holidaying in the UK, we used to cruise with celebrities but that is very much a thing of the past in this new world. Much rather holidaying where I know I can be in a covid secure, sterile environment with proper procedures and cleanliness.

Not sure I share your faith in Butlins.