Hitler - Clever man or Idiot?

[CHAPPERS]

Not debating whether he was evil or not (although some say he was only doing what he thought was right) but you've got to have quite a bit of nouse about you to take over a whole country and conquer most of Europe although he's got to be a bit silly to try and take Britain, what with us being hard as nails and all that?

Was Hitler a clever man or a crazy manic fool??

 

[3gulls]

He was clearly a genius. However, like most geniuses, he was also barking mad!

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

He was clever
He managed to get voted into a country by using clever tactics and saying what the germans wanted to hear.
He would have won the war if he had not decided to take on the russians

 

[CHAPPERS]

He would have won the war if he had not decided to take on the russians

Yeah, he could have had the whole of Europe but he wanted MORE MORE MORE. I thnk Mussolini let him down a bit too, the bald idiot.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

he should have pulled out of the war with the british and gone for the russians or waited and finished us off first

 

[Adams score 0]

He was a very clever man.
And quite mad
I watched the uk history drama with robbie carlisle.
Played him superb and a good insight in to what hitler was about.

 

[Hatterlovesbrighton]

Not clever not an idiot..... just evil. quite possibly the evilest man of the last 1000 years

 

[Uncle Buck]

He was clever
He managed to get voted into a country by using clever tactics and saying what the germans wanted to hear.
He would have won the war if he had not decided to take on the russians

Never really got voted in, came in as part of a coalition, of which I think the National Socialists were the minor party.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

true but then he came to the front of the party

long time ago since i did history

 

[Marc]

He was also Gay apparently, probably the reason why the rumour started that he actually lived in Brighton and died here!

 

[Squiggsy]

He was a chancer of incredible charisma who happened to be around at the right time. Able to take advantage of the huge German resentment about the settlement forced on them at the end of WW1 and say what the people wanted to hear, along with giving them easy targets to vent that frustration on.

Also Rest of World let him get on with things for too long as they thought he would back down, so he got off to a flier.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

and jewish

 

[perth seagull]

I don't think he was clever in an intellectual way.

But certainly cunning and manipulative enough to be able move to the very top.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

the british had an idea to stop him within months of the war starting but it needed the french to help but they surrendered instead

 

[CHAPPERS]

Never really got voted in, came in as part of a coalition, of which I think the National Socialists were the minor party.

Did he not set that up though?? I thought the National Socialist Party (NSP!) engineered that whole affair. Plus he killed a lot of opposition, that's well smart, if they aren't alive how can they beat you?!

 

[Digweeds Trousers]

It is impossible to divide the two - clever or manic fool - I am sure he was both.

Playing Devils Advocate clightly here - look at the state of Germany under the Weimar republic, in the days after the First World War.

Huge repatriation debts, massive super-inflation, chronic unemployment and occupation of the Ruhr by French troops. The Treaty of Versailles in my opinion was one of the reasons Germany was a fertile place for someone of Hilters ilk, and so did contribute to the Second World War.

It is a fact that extremist politics, especially right-wing views find more recpetive minds in times and places of repression, poverty, and desperation. a blame culture was the basis of the NSDAP (the original Nazi Party) as they blamed the government for betraying them in the First Wold war and abandoning them, the allies for taking more than Germany could give, and of course the Jews for the state of things at home.

it is far easier to listen to someone saying 'It is not your fault, it is those poeple etc. Very quickly, Hitler found people willing to listen to his views, but just as importantly, people who were desperate enough to believe him.

He was without doubt one of the greatest orators of all time. his rallies were staged with incredible precision, people were placed in audiences knowing when to stand up and clap, chant, etc.....almost like the North Stand.

Once he had turned Germany round it was very hard for average Germans to want to know the truth. He took us from ruin to greatness in 12 years........full employment, restructure of the educational system, trasnsport, industry, trade links. He had, with the Nazi party complatetly transformed a country which some 10 years early had been on the edge of the abyss.

But it was probably the state of Germnany, so internally weak, so corrupt that allowed him to prosper. The allies made no effort to help with the reconstruction of Germany in 1918, something they learned from in 1945.

so Chapmans, he was undoubltedly evil, manic, frightening, unhinged..........but certainly a very clever, intelligent man.

 

[CHAPPERS]

and jewish

Not a shred of truth in the fact that he had jewish blood although half of the guys he started out with were meant to be jews. Maybe that explains why all the office stationery kept going missing?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

i thought his gran on his mothers side was?

 

[CHAPPERS]

so Chapmans, he was undoubltedly evil, manic, frightening, unhinged..........but certainly a very clever, intelligent man.

Yup, that's what I reckon although he wasn't a very good military leader, the 5 pronged Russian advance and the fact that he stopped bombing RAF airfields to bomb towns being two good examples.

 

[Marc]

doing abit of Hitler-Brighton rumour research and found this quite interesting:

"Hitler was in fact very fond of the Brighton Pavilion, which he had of course only ever seen in pictures. German records were found at the end of the Second World War that showed the Nazis planned to spare the Pavilion from bombing because it had been earmarked as a suitable seaside residence for the Fuhrer. Goering, a noted art lover as well as the head of the German air force, also had his eye on the building as a nice place to live."