[Albion] "His deep-rooted dismay at the level of support at the Amex Stadium spilt over..."

[trueblue]

I am very much on board with the direction Graham Potter’s leading the club and detest the booing bellends.

I think in this case though that his comments were unwise. It’s predictable the media would ask about booing, yet he fed a story he could have killed very easily. It would have been very easy to drive a wedge between the dickheads and the rest by highlighting that the vast majority of fans understand the game and have been and remain supportive, rather than potentially create division between all fans and the club.

It’s an odd stance for such an intelligent manager to take. Hopefully, there’s nothing more to it than protecting the players.

 

[Dorset Seagull]

I’m getting my own back at £1 a month

Me too. Swap back and forth between 2 e mail addresses and pay just £12 a year. Absolute bargain as most of the articles are superb….apart from Naylor who just seems to trot out stuff he has read on here.

 

[Brovion]

I agree with every word you've said there

Did you read this as well:
https://www.brightonandhoveindepend...e-amex-stadium-3476327?itm_source=parsely-api

It makes a good point as to what is the 'threshold' for complaining. If we get relegated to the Championship and then League one are we not allowed to complain just because at one time we were at the bottom of League Two?

 

[Papa Lazarou]

This is a thoroughly antipathetic thread, quite a depressing read. Seems a good place to pour all of the vitriol that people have stored up about Graham Potter though.

This thread is certainly a lot more disheartening than watching the Albion play, so there is a silver lining I guess.

 

[Stat Brother]

This is a thoroughly antipathetic thread, quite a depressing read. Seems a good place to pour all of the vitriol that people have stored up about Graham Potter though.

This thread is certainly a lot more disheartening than watching the Albion play, so there is a silver lining I guess.

Im really not getting that vibe from here or anywhere else, since Saturday.
Sure I have to remove 1 poster from the equation, but there's always one.

For me NSC's content since the final whistle can be summed up by Jonny Loew's opening paragraph and the omission from the transfer window just gone.

We want the manager backed in the one area he's needed help in, for the best part of 2 years.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Im really not getting that vibe from here or anywhere else, since Saturday.
Sure I have to remove 1 poster from the equation, but there's always one.

For me NSC's content since the final whistle can be summed up by Jonny Loew's opening paragraph and the omission from the transfer window just gone.

We want the manager backed in the one area he's needed help in, for the best part of 2 years.

Maybe I'm being over-sensitive - I was unwell on Monday, so maybe still not quite right. What depresses me is how quickly some of our fans use any excuse to pile onto Potter / The Club, not specifically this, but it's a good example. Same old bollocks trotted out again. It feels like supporting this club is a chore for many of these people.

 

[Stat Brother]

Maybe I'm being over-sensitive - I was unwell on Monday, so maybe still not quite right. What depresses me is how quickly some of our fans use any excuse to pile onto Potter / The Club, not specifically this, but it's a good example. Same old bollocks trotted out again. It feels like supporting this club is a chore for many of these people.

Yeah definitely, judging by the empty seats around ALL of the stadium from 80mins.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Im really not getting that vibe from here or anywhere else, since Saturday.
Sure I have to remove 1 poster from the equation, but there's always one.

For me NSC's content since the final whistle can be summed up by Jonny Loew's opening paragraph and the omission from the transfer window just gone.

We want the manager backed in the one area he's needed help in, for the best part of 2 years.

Yup.

Around 11 and a bit months ago, when we'd won at home once in a calendar year, there was a Potter In/Out poll that came down to about 60/40. A thread was started after almost every game. I remember being asked by [MENTION=19]Icy Gull[/MENTION] what would get me on board, and replying that we needed to start winning the games we deserved to win, or at least picking up results that were nearly as good as the performances.

From Jan 21 to about eight games ago that's exactly what we did and I see the landscape as very different. There are no in/out polls and if there were I'd be In straight away and I suspect it would be 90/10 or even 95/5. Ironically the games we've won have probably not been the ones we should have or have deserved to but at least it's balanced out.

However, at that time I did also say that Potter was lucky we were still BCD because a calendar year of one win would not go down well with some sections in the Amex. In fact it's taken about 4 home games for the frustration of a very small minority to appear. Rather than play it down we've seen a storm in a teacup exaggerated by Sky, Talksport and Naylor, who still has to be a yes man to get stories and thinks the way to do that is attack or patronise the fans. He probably knows that most Brighton based Athletic subscribers don't buy it for his drivel.

But the fact that not even [MENTION=1517]junior[/MENTION] is starting in/out polls does suggest that people (yep, I include myself) can see that we have issues because, in defence and midfield we have pretty much two good options for every spot. And then up front we have two Championship (or in Locadia's case maybe even League One) level players, a walking Doctor's appointment and Maupay who is a fantastic ALL ROUND footballer in terms of work rate, movement and chance creation but who seems to switch off when presented with an easy chance.

TL;dR? I think the fans frustration is with our striker options and not our coach.

 

[Brian Fantana]

TL;dR? I think the fans frustration is with our striker options and not our coach.

This is how I see it, too.

Booing is the most obvious and noticeable avenue for fans to vent their frustrations at their club. Unfortunately, there's no room for nuance within it, i.e. who or what it is directed at. Justifiably, GP took it to me fans were upset with the manner of the team's performance. However, if you asked the majority of the people who booed, I'd wager that they'd say they were making a statement to the hierachy that we need a striker.

 

[Stat Brother]

This is how I see it, too.

Booing is the most obvious and noticeable avenue for fans to vent their frustrations at their club. Unfortunately, there's no room for nuance within it, i.e. who or what it is directed at. Justifiably, GP took it to me fans were upset with the manner of the team's performance. However, if you asked the majority of the people who booed, I'd wager that they'd say they were making a statement to the hierachy that we need a striker.

Despite his comments GP had better have been feeling the same.
When he walked into the dressing room he'd have better only seen players feeling the same.


The team which ought to have taken all 3 points against Leeds inside of 20 minutes, has, over the last 3 transfer windows, had £17m spent on it.
It's only that because they don't have a LWB.

 

[Baldseagull]

I did wonder the same, he soon disappeared when I asked him if he was in the stadium at the end of the Leeds match.

I hesitate to speak for him, but I think that he thought that "playing out from the back", was being called "fannying around at the back".

 

[Icy Gull]

Yup.

Around 11 and a bit months ago, when we'd won at home once in a calendar year, there was a Potter In/Out poll that came down to about 60/40. A thread was started after almost every game. I remember being asked by [MENTION=19]Icy Gull[/MENTION] what would get me on board, and replying that we needed to start winning the games we deserved to win, or at least picking up results that were nearly as good as the performances.

From Jan 21 to about eight games ago that's exactly what we did and I see the landscape as very different. There are no in/out polls and if there were I'd be In straight away and I suspect it would be 90/10 or even 95/5. Ironically the games we've won have probably not been the ones we should have or have deserved to but at least it's balanced out.

However, at that time I did also say that Potter was lucky we were still BCD because a calendar year of one win would not go down well with some sections in the Amex. In fact it's taken about 4 home games for the frustration of a very small minority to appear. Rather than play it down we've seen a storm in a teacup exaggerated by Sky, Talksport and Naylor, who still has to be a yes man to get stories and thinks the way to do that is attack or patronise the fans. He probably knows that most Brighton based Athletic subscribers don't buy it for his drivel.

But the fact that not even [MENTION=1517]junior[/MENTION] is starting in/out polls does suggest that people (yep, I include myself) can see that we have issues because, in defence and midfield we have pretty much two good options for every spot. And then up front we have two Championship (or in Locadia's case maybe even League One) level players, a walking Doctor's appointment and Maupay who is a fantastic ALL ROUND footballer in terms of work rate, movement and chance creation but who seems to switch off when presented with an easy chance.

TL;dR? I think the fans frustration is with our striker options and not our coach.

That is a good post

 

[rippleman]

Storm in a boocup.

Late kick off, some souls boo after a "little" beer.

National radio comment in their football round up.

All bhafc fans look like entitled bellends.

Ho hum. Yesterday's chip paper. There will be top support and love for the team at West Ham.


This will soon be forgotten.

It would have been forgotten already if Potter hadn't spat the dummy.

There has always been some booing at the end of most games by some. Booing the opponents, booing an opposition player, booing the officials, the opponents supporters booing something.

There really was no need to make such a drama out of it.

 

[Bold Seagull]

TL;dR? I think the fans frustration is with our striker options and not our coach.

And this all boils down to how the club is run and what the owner is prepared to do. Despite many transfer successes, Andone and Locadia have no doubt hurt the purse strings and the confidence of the owner to go big again into the striker transfer market, with both of them probably high earners still on the pay roll.

So fans frustration has to be a question of whether you are happy with the owner and the way he is choosing to run the club, or you are not happy. I think it is that simple and an uncomfortable position to be in because people want to blame everything else other than the guy that built and paid for everything we currently have.

I cannot imagine anyone at the club hasn't worked their arses off trying to find striking options that fit into our salary / budget profiles. Every transfer comes with risk, none more so than with the forward positions. However, at some point once the window closes you have to accept the club has done the business they are going to do, and no matter how frustrating, accept that performances and results have to marry with what is reasonable to expect from the squad as it stands. We are level on points with Leicester and Man Utd in the top half of the table, regardless of how the results of our 13 games have come, that is where we stand and more than meeting what is reasonable to expect.

The Amex crowd with their blankets and hand warmers may find a bit of an average run of results so frustrating they need to voice it, I expect from a business / owner's point of view, while Bloom may share frustration at just not turning some of these good performances into wins, he'll be delighted with where we are currently without him stretching his financial model he has for the club.

 

[Baldseagull]

Despite his comments GP had better have been feeling the same.
When he walked into the dressing room he'd have better only seen players feeling the same.


The team which ought to have taken all 3 points against Leeds inside of 20 minutes, has, over the last 3 transfer windows, had £17m spent on it.
It's only that because they don't have a LWB.

I think Lamptey Veltman and Cucurella all came in one of the last 3 windows, and Moder was signed in that period too, all were on the pitch. I make that £25M ish.

 

[Stat Brother]

I think Lamptey Veltman and Cucurella all came in one of the last 3 windows, and Moder was signed in that period too, all were on the pitch. I make that £25M ish.

I Cant believe I didn't include my usual caveat 'plus the player I've forgotten' - in this case Moder.

There's always one I forget.


I stand corrected.

 

[Baldseagull]

And this all boils down to how the club is run and what the owner is prepared to do. Despite many transfer successes, Andone and Locadia have no doubt hurt the purse strings and the confidence of the owner to go big again into the striker transfer market, with both of them probably high earners still on the pay roll.

So fans frustration has to be a question of whether you are happy with the owner and the way he is choosing to run the club, or you are not happy. I think it is that simple and an uncomfortable position to be in because people want to blame everything else other than the guy that built and paid for everything we currently have.

I cannot imagine anyone at the club hasn't worked their arses off trying to find striking options that fit into our salary / budget profiles. Every transfer comes with risk, none more so than with the forward positions. However, at some point once the window closes you have to accept the club has done the business they are going to do, and no matter how frustrating, accept that performances and results have to marry with what is reasonable to expect from the squad as it stands. We are level on points with Leicester and Man Utd in the top half of the table, regardless of how the results of our 13 games have come, that is where we stand and more than meeting what is reasonable to expect.

The Amex crowd with their blankets and hand warmers may find a bit of an average run of results so frustrating they need to voice it, I expect from a business / owner's point of view, while Bloom may share frustration at just not turning some of these good performances into wins, he'll be delighted with where we are currently without him stretching his financial model he has for the club.

I doubt he was any more pleased than any of us to see Locadia on the pitch though.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

This is a thoroughly antipathetic thread, quite a depressing read. Seems a good place to pour all of the vitriol that people have stored up about Graham Potter though.

This thread is certainly a lot more disheartening than watching the Albion play, so there is a silver lining I guess.

Quite.

I'm out

 

[BN9 BHA]

I hesitate to speak for him, but I think that he thought that "playing out from the back", was being called "fannying around at the back".

Sorry I thought I explained what I meant.
If you didn’t understand I meant near the end of the Leeds game Webster and Dunk were passing the ball across the penalty area, a Leeds player nicked the ball and they almost scored.
Maybe passing the ball across the area was to try and run the clock down, Leeds were quick to work out what they were up too.

I’m not against playing out from the back.

 

[Baldseagull]

Sorry I thought I explained what I meant.
If you didn’t understand I meant near the end of the Leeds game Webster and Dunk were passing the ball across the penalty area, a Leeds player nicked the ball and they almost scored.
Maybe passing the ball across the area was to try and run the clock down, Leeds were quick to work out what they were up too.

I’m not against playing out from the back.

I know, I just think that is what he thought.

I understood your "fannying about at the back" to mean not playing out from the back, but knocking a short pass sideways to your fellow CB, losing possession and presenting your opposition with a chance, OR wasting time in getting the ball upfield (not hoofing it aimlessly upfield, but trying a little harder to find a way forward rather than sideways passes) when there is not a lot of time on the clock.

The problem is that playing out from the back, inevitably, will on occasion lead to instances of "fannying about at the back", and therefore it is still a phrase that may attract a bit of criticism from those that value highly the possession based style of play we employ, even in understanding that it is "playing out from the back" when it all goes well, and "fannying about at the back" only when it doesn't go well, or allow a chance at scoring in the time remaining.

We can all agree, we should not be "fannying about at the back" by giving possession away on the edge of our area with slack passing, but the question is, should we be trying to get the ball forward a bit more urgently at 0-0 with only a few minutes left on the clock, or stick to our style and minimise the opportunity for the opposition by keeping possession first and foremost by "fannying about at the back"? I can see good arguments for both options, and I would not criticise the team for falling to defeat in trying to win the game, unless we were on a run of defeats, but we will only see that sort of urgency from a Potter team if we are actually behind in the game, and in the examples that spring to mind we have gone on to concede further.