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[Albion] "His deep-rooted dismay at the level of support at the Amex Stadium spilt over..."



perseus

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Icy Gull said:
I still agree with him though :shrug:

The man is showing passion and irritation, I like it given how well we played.

We are turning into a 21st century Charlton who were sixth when their fans hounded Curbishley out of the club because they should have been doing better. Be careful what you wish for if this winless run continues and we drop to 15th….
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No boos at half time, we played well in the first half. Second half was not good enough.
 




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Husty

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Oct 18, 2008
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Yup.

Around 11 and a bit months ago, when we'd won at home once in a calendar year, there was a Potter In/Out poll that came down to about 60/40. A thread was started after almost every game. I remember being asked by [MENTION=19]Icy Gull[/MENTION] what would get me on board, and replying that we needed to start winning the games we deserved to win, or at least picking up results that were nearly as good as the performances.

From Jan 21 to about eight games ago that's exactly what we did and I see the landscape as very different. There are no in/out polls and if there were I'd be In straight away and I suspect it would be 90/10 or even 95/5. Ironically the games we've won have probably not been the ones we should have or have deserved to but at least it's balanced out.

However, at that time I did also say that Potter was lucky we were still BCD because a calendar year of one win would not go down well with some sections in the Amex. In fact it's taken about 4 home games for the frustration of a very small minority to appear. Rather than play it down we've seen a storm in a teacup exaggerated by Sky, Talksport and Naylor, who still has to be a yes man to get stories and thinks the way to do that is attack or patronise the fans. He probably knows that most Brighton based Athletic subscribers don't buy it for his drivel.

But the fact that not even [MENTION=1517]junior[/MENTION] is starting in/out polls does suggest that people (yep, I include myself) can see that we have issues because, in defence and midfield we have pretty much two good options for every spot. And then up front we have two Championship (or in Locadia's case maybe even League One) level players, a walking Doctor's appointment and Maupay who is a fantastic ALL ROUND footballer in terms of work rate, movement and chance creation but who seems to switch off when presented with an easy chance.

TL;dR? I think the fans frustration is with our striker options and not our coach.
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There was one poll, possibly after Newport away that was actually about 60/40 in favour of him being sacked. This at a time when we were playing no worse than we have most of this season.

Therefore, I can't blame potter for being a bit shirty - if he says your average brighton doesn't have a clue about football, on the evidence I present above you could say he's right.
 
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Dick Knights Mumm

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Husty said:
There was one poll, possibly after Newport away that was actually about 60/40 in favour of him being sacked. This at a time when we were playing no worse than we have most of this season.
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Those polls were rubbish. As if anyone at that moment would have sat down at a board meeting at the Amex and argued for getting rid of the manager - other than a few who are permanently disgruntled. The votes were meaningless. I suspect more voted to annoy the very annoying band of regulars who seemed to take it in turns to competitively proclaim their pre-Potter credentials than actually wanted Potter out. They were a classic - back from the match and pissed off (or up) about something ? - vote here to register it. And we know how well those votes can turn out.
 




sydney

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i have spoken to my nan who was there and she said the oldies were boing cos the heating wasn't up high enough and they couldn't keep hold of their knitting ....she dropped seven stitches from 66 t0o 71 minutes .....she's gutted.
 






Swansman

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Dick Knights Mumm said:
Those polls were rubbish. As if anyone at that moment would have sat down at a board meeting at the Amex and argued for getting rid of the manager - other than a few who are permanently disgruntled. The votes were meaningless. I suspect more voted to annoy the very annoying band of regulars who seemed to take it in turns to competitively proclaim their pre-Potter credentials than actually wanted Potter out. They were a classic - back from the match and pissed off (or up) about something ? - vote here to register it. And we know how well those votes can turn out.
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Rubbish yes but it often happens on most team boards if the team go on a winless streak. Definitely meaningless though. I think I voted OUT every single time.
 


Paulie Gualtieri

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The thing with Booing, is what is the alternative to show dissatisfaction / frustration?

The Chairman’s “long term” (opened ended) ambitions are viewed differently in duration from supporter to supporter, the statement although good to hear probably hasn’t helped as it’s jumped upon and used as a variable benchmark as to when this aspiration should happen.

We have been here before, we simply do not score enough goals as a team which regardless of how well we are playing doesn’t get us the results needed to progress.

I didn’t boo but was seriously ****ed off in the final minutes when we were passing side to side with no urgency and it was only when the crowd picked up on this that dunk started driving forward. Leeds we’re there for the taking and we created enough but didn’t convert.

The jury’s out if we (can) invest in the obvious but I don’t see any harm in giving the squad a boot up the arse to train harder and go the extra mile to fix it.

Equally I have no issue with Potter biting back and protecting his players, it’s what’s expected.

We all want the same thing and from time to time you need to fall out, clear the air and progress for the better.
 




perseus

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Dick Knights Mumm said:
Listen to yourself.

That is why Potter needs to ignore the idiots who boo. Rubbish like that.
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It never occurred to me to boo, I thought the first half was excellent. I thought GP was seduced by our own play and that we wouldn't have it so easy in the second half and so it proved. Mind frame was not right. Liverpool suffered in the same way against the Albion. It was on the other foot this time.
 


Wozza

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Dick Knights Mumm said:
Those polls were rubbish. As if anyone at that moment would have sat down at a board meeting at the Amex and argued for getting rid of the manager - other than a few who are permanently disgruntled. The votes were meaningless. I suspect more voted to annoy the very annoying band of regulars who seemed to take it in turns to competitively proclaim their pre-Potter credentials than actually wanted Potter out. They were a classic - back from the match and pissed off (or up) about something ? - vote here to register it. And we know how well those votes can turn out.
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You know this. I know this. Most people on here know this.

But, yes, some loons would still use poll results to beat others over the head months later - like a negative vote for Potter last season literally meant you would have sacked him if you were CEO (or expected Bloom to do so).

Polls are a great way to let off steam, and showing disapproval (or approval, of course). Certainly better than, say, booing...
 


Wozza

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sydney said:
8th ....winless in 9 , apparently , have some perspective for **** sake ....!!
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9th, actually.

Poor home record - again. Can't score. And this form...

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Don't panic!
 






sydney

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Paulie Gualtieri said:
The thing with Booing, is what is the alternative to show dissatisfaction / frustration?

The Chairman’s “long term” (opened ended) ambitions are viewed differently in duration from supporter to supporter, the statement although good to hear probably hasn’t helped as it’s jumped upon and used as a variable benchmark as to when this aspiration should happen.

We have been here before, we simply do not score enough goals as a team which regardless of how well we are playing doesn’t get us the results needed to progress.

I didn’t boo but was seriously ****ed off in the final minutes when we were passing side to side with no urgency and it was only when the crowd picked up on this that dunk started driving forward. Leeds we’re there for the taking and we created enough but didn’t convert.

The jury’s out if we (can) invest in the obvious but I don’t see any harm in giving the squad a boot up the arse to train harder and go the extra mile to fix it.

Equally I have no issue with Potter biting back and protecting his players, it’s what’s expected.

We all want the same thing and from time to time you need to fall out, clear the air and progress for the better.
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can someone verify is Gaultieri is spanish for Barber ...?? im off to the pit ...ta ..taaaa..
 






C

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Gosh another 20 pages on Boogate. Let’s hope we win tonight or we’ll have to build a bonfire all over again.
 




BN9 BHA

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Baldseagull said:
I know, I just think that is what he thought.

I understood your "fannying about at the back" to mean not playing out from the back, but knocking a short pass sideways to your fellow CB, losing possession and presenting your opposition with a chance, OR wasting time in getting the ball upfield (not hoofing it aimlessly upfield, but trying a little harder to find a way forward rather than sideways passes) when there is not a lot of time on the clock.

The problem is that playing out from the back, inevitably, will on occasion lead to instances of "fannying about at the back", and therefore it is still a phrase that may attract a bit of criticism from those that value highly the possession based style of play we employ, even in understanding that it is "playing out from the back" when it all goes well, and "fannying about at the back" only when it doesn't go well, or allow a chance at scoring in the time remaining.

We can all agree, we should not be "fannying about at the back" by giving possession away on the edge of our area with slack passing, but the question is, should we be trying to get the ball forward a bit more urgently at 0-0 with only a few minutes left on the clock, or stick to our style and minimise the opportunity for the opposition by keeping possession first and foremost by "fannying about at the back"? I can see good arguments for both options, and I would not criticise the team for falling to defeat in trying to win the game, unless we were on a run of defeats, but we will only see that sort of urgency from a Potter team if we are actually behind in the game, and in the examples that spring to mind we have gone on to concede further.
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:thumbsup:

I think you have covered everything here.
 










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