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[Albion] He’s staying



Weststander

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If people read the latest extensive quotes from the man himself in The Athletic, there might not be so much confidence. Bottom line, RDZ is talking about the future with Bloom over the next few days and weeks. The usual encouraging noises to keep his options open but clearly nothing is decided. When he signs a contract, we’ll know he’s still committed.

Perhaps I’m the only one here not at all bothered by his next contract, after all they’re there to be broken.

Last summer the general consensus here, I think, was that we’d be lucky to keep RDZ as far as summer 2025. I feel that still. Anything longer a bonus.

Perhaps first, he needs to see what TB has planned for the summer transfer window?
 
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Thunder Bolt

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If people read the latest extensive quotes from the man himself in The Athletic, there might not be so much confidence. Bottom line, RDZ is talking about the future with Bloom over the next few days and weeks. The usual encouraging noises to keep his options open but clearly nothing is decided.

It reads as if we’re still having to negotiate with our own Head Coach, mid-contract in the middle of a very poor run of results. A strange state of affairs. When he signs a contract, we’ll know he’s still committed.
He has two years to run on his contract yet.

When approaches are made to managers, the owner gives them permission to talk to another club, so surely that applies to a manager approaching clubs? If not, the manager is in breach of his or her contract, and we know Tony & Paul aren’t afraid to dismiss someone for that.

All we’ve seen is newspaper talk and gossip.
 


Affy

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I’ve been a bit in the fence given the recent run of poor form and inability to defend all season.

I don’t want to regurgitate the same old injuries, motivation etc. we can’t change this season but we can change next.

I’d like to see him stay next year with a decent summer window and less injuries and see how we get on. If this form continues into next season then that’ll be disappointing. If we play like last season it;ll be a dream. Live the dream please RDZ and TBOBE.
 






warmleyseagull

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He has two years to run on his contract yet.

When approaches are made to managers, the owner gives them permission to talk to another club, so surely that applies to a manager approaching clubs? If not, the manager is in breach of his or her contract, and we know Tony & Paul aren’t afraid to dismiss someone for that.

All we’ve seen is newspaper talk and gossip.
His agent(s) talk to other clubs. Technically that is a breach but almost impossible to prove.
 


OzMike

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Oct 2, 2006
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Hmmm, his head was turned and could be again.
Too much damage done and could be hard to get players back........................till next time.
 
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veuve

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He lifted his skirt and showed his thong, unfortunately for him recent form meant no one took the bait.
 


HastingsSeagull

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I agree expectations have risen, but I'd say many of us expect to be top 10 instead of that being the aim. Nothing about Europe in terms of expectation. We'd like to again sometime, when having a good season. An average season maybe 8th or 9th. A poor season comfortably stay in the PL and sure miss out on top 10 perhaps as long as some fire and effort.

With the injuries and having played in Europe I think we'd be excusing being just outside top10...... but the style of the total collapse since Xmas/Roma and the fact we're loosing 3-0 or 4-0 to teams we would understand being beaten by a goal against (Luton, Fulham, to a point BMuff) is the more worrying thing. That small worry is then multiplied many times by comments made to the media about potentially moving on.

Personally very happy he's hopefully staying, but I'll be jumping on him mid November if we're bottom 1/4 of the league now next season, where-as with a 10th place finish (still possible I guess but let's be serious the form says no) then I'd have been still benefit of the doubt in above scenario till about Xmas.
 






WhingForPresident

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If he can stop stropping, sign a new contract with a massive buy out clause for at least the first couple of years and TB commits to buying him four or five quality players (through our data etc, rather than his specific demands), we're in a great position for the new season. How likely any of those things are to transpire is open to interpretation...
 


Zeberdi

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It reads as if we’re still having to negotiate with our own Head Coach, mid-contract in the middle of a very poor run of results. A strange state of affairs. When he signs a contract, we’ll know he’s still committed.
But he doesn’t need to sign the contract - he’s signed until 2026. When the Club announces RDZ (or RDZ announces) that he is staying next season, then we know he is committed for next season.

Quotes from the article:

“When I said this season can be important for the improvement for everyone, starting from the owner, maybe you understood it in a different way. It wasn’t polemical (controversial), it was what I thought in that moment...It was to improve, because when I work in one club I feel the work as if it is my club and I work thinking to stay 15 years. Maybe I can leave tomorrow, but when I am working at one club, the passion I put in, the attitude, the behaviour is to stay in that club 15, 20 years.”

“We [Tony Bloom] have spoken about what we’ve done and we started to speak about the future, but we have to speak more, to analyse the plan better. He will tell me what he wants from me and I want to listen what is the plan, what is the target, what he thinks.”


Sounds straightforward to me and what RDZ has been saying for months - talk it through to see what TB expects and see whether Roberto thinks he is the right person for taking the plan forward...ie whether he believes he can achieve it with the squad he has and what else he needs if not.

 
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dwayne

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All this positivity on the thread about him staying and the first paragraph of the athletic article is ...

'Yes, we spoke for not a long time, 20 minutes, but we spoke, one week ago. I have nothing against Tony. I am used to saying the truth and the truth is difficult to accept.'

Hmmmmm !!!

It does seem a bit strange that bloom never seems to have long conversations with him. Or that's what RDZ has been saying for weeks anyway....maybe it's Bloom who's having serious doubts now, plenty of other good managers out there that aren't loose cannons.
 


Flounce

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Depending on how the rest of the season goes, not necessarily results but performances, I would not be shocked if the decision is taken out of his hands. Really hope we have an invigorating and uplifting end to the season and this can be sorted to both parties satisfaction.

FWIW I think both RDZ and the team will get great backing and support tomorrow, unless it goes badly wrong again, then it could get messy and a bit toxic by the end.
 




heathgate

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All this positivity on the thread about him staying and the first paragraph of the athletic article is ...

'Yes, we spoke for not a long time, 20 minutes, but we spoke, one week ago. I have nothing against Tony. I am used to saying the truth and the truth is difficult to accept.'

Hmmmmm !!!

It does seem a bit strange that bloom never seems to have long conversations with him. Or that's what RDZ has been saying for weeks anyway....maybe it's Bloom who's having serious doubts now, plenty of other good managers out there that aren't loose cannons.
That quote is fairly damning if true,....
 






Blues Guitarist

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Ironically Sky Germany ran a poll earlier today on who they'd prefer as next Bayern coach. Roger Schmidt currently at Benfica or RDZ.

The Bayern job has become a toxic hot potato nobody wants. Ralf Rangnick is the latest to turn them down after Nagelsmann told them to stick it when he was approached regarding a return.

RDZ wouldn't wake up content and be happy there. Not with a megalomaniac like Uli Hoeness poking his nose into team affairs as well as publicly commenting on team matters inc selection. He might not be President anymore but he's very much back seat driving. RDZ together with that dinosaur would end in tears very quick. Possibly why Rangnick turned it down? He doesn't suffer inflated egos as his spat with Ronaldo at Man Utd proved.
I’m hoping Rangnick ends up at RB Salzburg after the Euros (he has links to the RB organisation), but I’m not betting on it.
 


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