[Misc] Here We Go Again - Breaking News Florida Shooting At High School

[daveinprague]

Nobody can own an assault rifle because there's no such thing as an assault rifle.

It's actually not a gun nor a class of gun.

Lets just call them sophisticated weapons of war that no-marks like to carry to make themselves feel big and be able to scream AWESOME when firing them then.
Bit of a pointless post from you tbf.

 

[The Clamp]

Nobody can own an assault rifle because there's no such thing as an assault rifle.

It's actually not a gun nor a class of gun.

You're just plain wrong.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Lets just call them sophisticated weapons of war that no-marks like to carry to make themselves feel big then.

Wrong.

Fully automatic weapons are weapons of war. A gun like the M16.

The AR15 which a lot of idiots love referring to as assault rifles are used for hunting small game like Coyotes. The reason? It's .223 calibre ammunition doesn't offer much stopping power for anything other than small game.

How about them no marks who talk about guns but don't know shit about them.

 

[daveinprague]

Wrong.

Fully automatic weapons are weapons of war. A gun like the M16.

The AR15 which a lot of idiots love referring to as assault rifles are used for hunting small game like Coyotes. The reason? It's .223 calibre ammunition doesn't offer much stopping power for anything other than small game.

How about them no marks who talk about guns but don't know shit about them.

You are cretinous.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

You are cretinous.

Oh give over. You're the ****ing cretin that doesn't know shit about guns.

And when you get called out on it you have no come back because you're a lightweight with zero knowledge about the subject.

Jog on boy.

 

[daveinprague]

Oh give over. You're the ****ing cretin that doesn't know shit about guns.

And when you get called out on it you have no come back because you're a lightweight with zero knowledge about the subject.

Jog on boy.

Can you, or can you not by military grade weapons, including M16s in the USA? Yes or No?
Have bump stocks made AR15s fully automatic?
A .223 can take down a deer. Fairly sure it can take down a teenager at his school desk. I would think a .223 to your head would cause you only minor discomfort though.

 

[Gazwag]

Nobody can own an assault rifle because there's no such thing as an assault rifle.

It's actually not a gun nor a class of gun.

Oh come on you know exactly what I mean, ok a big ****ing gun that's only place in this world is when a soldier is killing an enemy army's soldier.

(awaiting smug "big ****ing gun is not actually a real gun")

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Can you, or can you not by military grade weapons, including M16s in the USA? Yes or No?

You cannot purchase an M16 that was made after the year 1983.

The only people who can have an old one will need to be rich and have gone through highly intensive back ground checks which includes an 8 month FBI background check.

In short the guns you are referring to are HIGHLY regulated and extremely hard to obtain. Fully automatic weapons have NOT been used in any mass shootings.


The guns you are referring too are semi-automatic weapons. Pull the trigger and it fires one bullet, unlike the automatic rifle. This class of gun includes guns from the wild west like the lever action rifle used in many a western film up to guns like the AR-15.

The AR-15 is not a military gun. In 2015 when legislation was put forward that would have banned some semi-automatic guns they did not classify the AR-15 as a a model which was worthy of being on the list for banning.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Oh come on you know exactly what I mean, ok a big ****ing gun that's only place in this world is when a soldier is killing an enemy army's soldier.

(awaiting smug "big ****ing gun is not actually a real gun")

Well the AR-15 is used all the time for hunting.

The old style rifle below is classed as a semi-automatic rifle, do you consider that a big ****ing gun?

 

[Pevenseagull]

You cannot purchase an M16 that was made after the year 1983.

The only people who can have an old one will need to be rich and have gone through highly intensive back ground checks which includes an 8 month FBI background check.

In short the guns you are referring to are HIGHLY regulated and extremely hard to obtain. Fully automatic weapons have NOT been used in any mass shootings.


The guns you are referring too are semi-automatic weapons. Pull the trigger and it fires one bullet, unlike the automatic rifle. This class of gun includes guns from the wild west like the lever action rifle used in many a western film up to guns like the AR-15.

The AR-15 is not a military gun. In 2015 when legislation was put forward that would have banned some semi-automatic guns they did not classify the AR-15 as a a model which was worthy of being on the list for banning.

Phew, good to know that people can't get hold of dangerous guns.

 

[BadFish]

You cannot purchase an M16 that was made after the year 1983.

The only people who can have an old one will need to be rich and have gone through highly intensive back ground checks which includes an 8 month FBI background check.

In short the guns you are referring to are HIGHLY regulated and extremely hard to obtain. Fully automatic weapons have NOT been used in any mass shootings.


The guns you are referring too are semi-automatic weapons. Pull the trigger and it fires one bullet, unlike the automatic rifle. This class of gun includes guns from the wild west like the lever action rifle used in many a western film up to guns like the AR-15.

The AR-15 is not a military gun. In 2015 when legislation was put forward that would have banned some semi-automatic guns they did not classify the AR-15 as a a model which was worthy of being on the list for banning.

Why is this?

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Why is this?

Because unlike a semi automatic gun which fires one bullet per pull of a trigger and heats up the more rapidly you try to fire an automatic rifle is pull the trigger and hold it down and multiple shots are fired. They also have been made to not heat up like a semi-automatic rifle when rapid firing.

 

[Pevenseagull]

Why is this?

Don't start with all that logic nonsense.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Can’t wait for when a teacher with a gun has a bad day and turns it on a student. Or a student gets hold of the gun.

The dialogue goes from bad to worse.

Something like this!

Teacher: Morning class, have you all finished your history assignments?

Class: Yes miss

Teacher: I didn't see (redneck in the corner) you speak.

Redneck: Can't be assed miss

Teacher: You should be (redneck in the corner)

Redneck: Watya going to do about it

Scene plays out: !!!!!!!

 

[Pevenseagull]

Because unlike a semi automatic gun which fires one bullet per pull of a trigger and heats up the more rapidly you try to fire an automatic rifle is pull the trigger and hold it down and multiple shots are fired. They also have been made to not heat up like a semi-automatic rifle when rapid firing.

So they are using the most efficient weapon to kill school children.

Jolly good.

 

[daveinprague]

You cannot purchase an M16 that was made after the year 1983.

The only people who can have an old one will need to be rich and have gone through highly intensive back ground checks which includes an 8 month FBI background check.

In short the guns you are referring to are HIGHLY regulated and extremely hard to obtain. Fully automatic weapons have NOT been used in any mass shootings.


The guns you are referring too are semi-automatic weapons. Pull the trigger and it fires one bullet, unlike the automatic rifle. This class of gun includes guns from the wild west like the lever action rifle used in many a western film up to guns like the AR-15.

The AR-15 is not a military gun. In 2015 when legislation was put forward that would have banned some semi-automatic guns they did not classify the AR-15 as a a model which was worthy of being on the list for banning.

So, in answer, you CAN buy an M16.
In Las Vegas, it certainly sounded like Automatic fire to me.
You say, that .223 has no stopping power. Tell that to the families of 17 children killed.
Your pendantry in the face of 17 destroyed families is somewhat pathetic.

 

[BadFish]

Because unlike a semi automatic gun which fires one bullet per pull of a trigger and heats up the more rapidly you try to fire an automatic rifle is pull the trigger and hold it down and multiple shots are fired. They also have been made to not heat up like a semi-automatic rifle when rapid firing.

What? My question is why do the NRA and law makers choose to draw the line here? Semi automatic weapons are largly fine - no back ground checks necessary yet automatic weapons require a 8 month FBI back ground check. Why is the line here? and not between semi automatic weapons and non automatic weapons (are they called single shot or something?).

 

[BadFish]

So, in answer, you CAN buy an M16.
In Las Vegas, it certainly sounded like Automatic fire to me.
You say, that .223 has no stopping power. Tell that to the families of 17 children killed.
Your pendantry in the face of 17 destroyed families is somewhat pathetic.

The bloke in Vegas used a device to make it fully automatically didn't he? Also legal IIRC

 

[daveinprague]

The bloke in Vegas used a device to make it fully automatically didn't he? Also legal IIRC

Bump stocks.
Trump is going to make them illegal.....so now you will only be able to kill half as many kids in the same amount of time.

 

[Postman Pat]

So it transpires there was an armed and trained police officer on site when the shooting happened and he didn't intervene, yet Trump believes that giving teachers guns will ensure they stop these killings early.

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An armed officer assigned to the Florida school where a gunman killed 17 people last week stood outside the building during the shooting and did not intervene, the local sheriff says.

Deputy Scot Peterson has resigned after being suspended, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said.

"I am devastated. Sick to my stomach. He never went in," Sheriff Israel said.

Sheriff Israel said Mr Peterson was on campus, armed and in uniform when the shooting at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School campus in Parkland began.

He said video footage showed Mr Peterson arriving at the building where the shooting was taking place about 90 seconds after the first shots were fired and that he remained outside for about four minutes. The attack lasted six minutes, Sheriff Israel said.

Asked what Mr Peterson should have done, Sheriff Israel said: "Went in, addressed the killer, killed the killer."