Hemed to Reading?

[Ninja Elephant]

A lot of people are making this assessment of Tomer not being good enough for the Premier League, either because they just 'presume' he won't be, or based on that one performance against Manchest er City.

The truth of the matter is that none of us know yet, and won't know until/unless he plays a good few more games. Unfortunately it seems unlikely that he will get the chance to do that. seems unlikely

He's shown over the last two years that he's not better than Championship standard. He was in a very good team for two years and one hot streak aside, he's toiled away. He's very average at Championship standard and certainly not Premier League quality.

 

[durrington gull]

He's shown over the last two years that he's not better than Championship standard. He was in a very good team for two years and one hot streak aside, he's toiled away. He's very average at Championship standard and certainly not Premier League quality.

Nailed it

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

The thing that made Hemed 'tick' was playing alongside Baldock. It's no coincidence that when Baldock was injured the goals seemingly dried up for our forwards. I'd like to see Hemed paired with a pacey striker again before writing him off at this level.

 

[Napper]

He's shown over the last two years that he's not better than Championship standard. He was in a very good team for two years and one hot streak aside, he's toiled away. He's very average at Championship standard and certainly not Premier League quality.

That's just crap though .

He played in the championship and proved he was capable of playing top end and averaging better than 1/3 when not even being the main man .

He's now a chance to step up and he may do it . He hasn't proven he can't at all .

 

[Napper]

The thing that made Hemed 'tick' was playing alongside Baldock. It's no coincidence that when Baldock was injured the goals seemingly dried up for our forwards. I'd like to see Hemed paired with a pacey striker again before writing him off at this level.

With respect he didn't play alongside baldock for Israel or in la liga where he has proven himself . There are other formulas that will work .

Lot of disrespect shown for tomer and it's not great . If we can get big money and obviously improve team then all good but some people just have the knives out .

Careful what you wish for

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

With respect he didn't play alongside baldock for Israel or in la liga where he has proven himself . There are other formulas that will work .

Lot of disrespect shown for tomer and it's not great . If we can get big money and obviously improve team then all good but some people just have the knives out .

Careful what you wish for

I was referring to his play in the Championship, but yes you are right he didn't have the luxury of Baldock for Israel and in la liga. I still maintain he looks more comfortable with a pacey strike partner, be that Baldock or not.

 

[Napper]

I was referring to his play in the Championship, but yes you are right he didn't have the luxury of Baldock for Israel and in la liga. I still maintain he looks more comfortable with a pacey strike partner, be that Baldock or not.

Yeah , I quoted you but was meant for others really.

Agree with you

 

[Ninja Elephant]

That's just crap though .

He played in the championship and proved he was capable of playing top end and averaging better than 1/3 when not even being the main man .

He's now a chance to step up and he may do it . He hasn't proven he can't at all .

If you think he's Premier League quality that's fine, your opinion differs from me. My opinion is that if we play Hemed, we won't score goals and we will get relegated.

Not the end of the world, obviously. But it's the reality, because he isn't good enough at this level.

 

[Stat Brother]

I wonder how much a striker in Tomer's position that would have impressed, in those first 2 games, be worth/cost.?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

If you think he's Premier League quality that's fine, your opinion differs from me. My opinion is that if we play Hemed, we won't score goals and we will get relegated.

Not the end of the world, obviously. But it's the reality, because he isn't good enough at this level.

The club's opinion is that we are turning down bids for him.

 

[Ecosse Exile]

Have to agree with others saying its the system thats wrong, against Man City we never had (weren't allowed) the possession to create anything, our wingers were too deep (understandably) helping out our full backs. When we did get possession, we were given a master class in closing down, not just the man but the space. TBF im not sure any other formation would have made a difference and we could have had Sergio Aguero playing up front, if you dont get the ball to him in areas that are going to threaten the opposition, he ain't gonna score.
Leicester was different, we had much more possession but created nothing, it was almost as if we were too scared of getting caught on the break to have a go, our wingers were looking to come inside all the time, with the only option a pass back to a midfielder because Murray was completely marked out the game by the excellent Maguire. I can only recall twice when we got to the by-line, Gross (i think it was) put his cross behind the goal and then there was the chance for Murray who completely missed the ball, in his defence this was not long after he got injured. I thought we looked a little more lively with Knockaert and Hemed (dare i say it) and at least he had a shot on target albeit from outside the box.
My point is though we are not creating the opportunities for our strikers, we dont have the players available to play 4-4-2 at the moment with Baldock and Brown out but Gross is supposedly able to play that role, so is Murphy and even Skalak, yes these 3 are inferior to Baldock, i know that, but playing one man against very good defenders is just food and drink for the defenders, unless you have movement, support from midfielders and players with the ability to open up the defence from either midfield or the wings, so far we have had none of the above.

Im hoping the fear factor will be gone against Watford, otherwise.......

 

[chaileyjem]

Naylor now reporting that Hemed is "likely to leave"

If Dwamena transfer goes through.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/alb...ork_to_complete_the_signing_of_Ghana_striker/

 

[Stat Brother]

Sad.

 

[Weststander]

Have to agree with others saying its the system thats wrong, against Man City we never had (weren't allowed) the possession to create anything, our wingers were too deep (understandably) helping out our full backs. When we did get possession, we were given a master class in closing down, not just the man but the space. TBF im not sure any other formation would have made a difference and we could have had Sergio Aguero playing up front, if you dont get the ball to him in areas that are going to threaten the opposition, he ain't gonna score.
Leicester was different, we had much more possession but created nothing, it was almost as if we were too scared of getting caught on the break to have a go, our wingers were looking to come inside all the time, with the only option a pass back to a midfielder because Murray was completely marked out the game by the excellent Maguire. I can only recall twice when we got to the by-line, Gross (i think it was) put his cross behind the goal and then there was the chance for Murray who completely missed the ball, in his defence this was not long after he got injured. I thought we looked a little more lively with Knockaert and Hemed (dare i say it) and at least he had a shot on target albeit from outside the box.
My point is though we are not creating the opportunities for our strikers, we dont have the players available to play 4-4-2 at the moment with Baldock and Brown out but Gross is supposedly able to play that role, so is Murphy and even Skalak, yes these 3 are inferior to Baldock, i know that, but playing one man against very good defenders is just food and drink for the defenders, unless you have movement, support from midfielders and players with the ability to open up the defence from either midfield or the wings, so far we have had none of the above.

Im hoping the fear factor will be gone against Watford, otherwise.......

Great points. A fair analysis.

 

[Marshy]

Naylor now reporting that Hemed is "likely to leave"

If Dwamena transfer goes through.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/alb...ork_to_complete_the_signing_of_Ghana_striker/

Yeah interesting, if Hemed goes we do need another for sure.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Naylor now reporting that Hemed is "likely to leave"

If Dwamena transfer goes through.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/alb...ork_to_complete_the_signing_of_Ghana_striker/

If true I the knives now get put away.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Have to agree with others saying its the system thats wrong, against Man City we never had (weren't allowed) the possession to create anything, our wingers were too deep (understandably) helping out our full backs. When we did get possession, we were given a master class in closing down, not just the man but the space. TBF im not sure any other formation would have made a difference and we could have had Sergio Aguero playing up front, if you dont get the ball to him in areas that are going to threaten the opposition, he ain't gonna score.
Leicester was different, we had much more possession but created nothing, it was almost as if we were too scared of getting caught on the break to have a go, our wingers were looking to come inside all the time, with the only option a pass back to a midfielder because Murray was completely marked out the game by the excellent Maguire. I can only recall twice when we got to the by-line, Gross (i think it was) put his cross behind the goal and then there was the chance for Murray who completely missed the ball, in his defence this was not long after he got injured. I thought we looked a little more lively with Knockaert and Hemed (dare i say it) and at least he had a shot on target albeit from outside the box.
My point is though we are not creating the opportunities for our strikers, we dont have the players available to play 4-4-2 at the moment with Baldock and Brown out but Gross is supposedly able to play that role, so is Murphy and even Skalak, yes these 3 are inferior to Baldock, i know that, but playing one man against very good defenders is just food and drink for the defenders, unless you have movement, support from midfielders and players with the ability to open up the defence from either midfield or the wings, so far we have had none of the above.

Im hoping the fear factor will be gone against Watford, otherwise.......

Interesting post ...that last line I fully endorse

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

Sad.

At least he got to play in the Premier League. He even had a shot on target at Leicester.

 

[Finchley Seagull]

Naylor now reporting that Hemed is "likely to leave"

If Dwamena transfer goes through.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/alb...ork_to_complete_the_signing_of_Ghana_striker/

Interesting although not that surprising. I think it would still leave us needing one more striker though, even if we do get Dwamena.

I really rate Hemed (look at his goals to appearances ratio last season) but sadly think he will struggle now we've tweaked the formation. To effectively play as a lone striker, I think you either need to be very quick or very tall/good in the air, but Hemed is not either of those. He is a decent all round striker, which is great in the Championship but not so helpful in the Premier League.

If he goes, he has been a fantastic signing. He's scored goals in both seasons at the club and it sounds like we'll get significantly more for him now than the money we paid for him (which I think was less than £1 million).

 

[Nixonator]

Started last season if you didn't notice

I meant what are you projections for the rest