Not Andy Naylor
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This is how Bournemouth have got round FFP rules, I reckon.
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That would mean the customers have paid a net of £9 each which is £27, so why isn't there £3 left over?
Prince Monolulu
Everything in Moderation
To whom did the £9 each go?
Adding the £2 is irrelevant because it is included in the £27. It is the £3 each person kept that adds back up to £30.
I hope I'm not splitting a bill with you anytime soon!
This is probably the clearest explanation of it!
- Apr 5, 2014
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No, it's £8.33 each as £5 was returned, being as the bill was really £25. They then give him the tip.
The extra money you speak of has been refunded to the diners as loose change, it is not part of the calculation of payment.
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£5 wasn't returned. £3 was returned. Regardless of whether the £2 was a tip or an overcharge, they initially paid £10 each and each got £1 back which is £9 each and £27 total. The other £2 of the money over and above the correct bill of £25 was kept. £27 and £2 is £29, what happened to the other pound?
Stop being a din. They paid out £25 into the till, and £2 to the waiter, and they each have £1 in their pockets. There is no missing pound.
superseagull1994
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- Jun 21, 2011
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Okay so the bill was initially overcharged at £30, once the waiter realised his mistake he brought back the correct change of 5 £ coins the three customer gave the waiter 2 of the 5 as a tip and split the remaining 3 between them. Making the final bill £27 including tip. It is not £27 plus the £2 tip, the tip is part of the £27.
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is it me being a din or has the ball from the corner flown over Hans' head?
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No, the £27 they paid would be net of the money the waiter kept then.
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£2 is not included in the £27 and each person did not keep £3.
KZNSeagull
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You are being a din.
Get 30 quid out and re-enact your little story and then you will see that there is no magical missing pound.
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Okay. After this I have to update a set of limited company accounts. Thankfully that will be easier.
They have paid £10 each (£30)
The waiter comes back with £5, saying it is really £25 they should have paid. Take £2, they say. He replies ''Thanks''.
One of the diners says "So that means we have paid the £25 plus £2 tip for the meal. £27 in total"
"Yes, replies another, and as we originally gave him £30, there should be £3 left on the table in loose change-£1 each. Oh, I see there is"
"Bloody good value at £9 each" says the other, "Fancy a pint ?".
In agreement, they then leave the restaurant.
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Given it's a puzzle raised by Professor Kjartan Poskitt [I swear] I'd suggest that maybe it's either him or you who is the din.
tinycowboy
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This. You just need to follow the cash flows:
1. £30 from customer to restaurant
2. £3 from restaurant to customers
3. £2 from restaurant to waiter
This ends up, as HKFC says, with £25 in till, £2 in waiter's pocket, £1 each in pockets of three customers - add them up and that's your £30.
KZNSeagull
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I have highlighted the key word in the above. Get your money out and try it, you din.
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Then one of them says 'right so we've got a pound back each, so we have paid £9.66r each, for the meal and the tip and that adds up to £29. Hang on!
tinycowboy
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Yet another way of setting this out:
You are positing that payments by customers (£27) + tip (£2) = incorrect original bill (£30), which is incorrect by £1. However, payments by customers of £27 already include the tip, so you're immediately double-counting the tip. Your revised equation would then be payments by customers (£25) = incorrect original bill (£30), which is more clearly an incorrect statement.
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So let me get this straight. You are calling me a din. Does that mean you have got your money out and tried it then?
KZNSeagull
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No need. But I would be using rands anyway and that may just confuse matters further as a rand is 1/18th of a pound.
Get your money out and try it - if you can lose a pound from it, you give everyone who has posted on this thread 30 quid. How's that? You din.