Heaton

[dougdeep]

Would anyone care to look through the rules of football and find me the expression "Professional Foul"

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

Would anyone care to look through the rules of football and find me the expression "Professional Foul"

You're right. It isn't there. It's too colloquial a term, but the term stands for a particular context for a foul which is covered by the rules.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Dyche is quoted as saying the sending off changed the game,,,no rules to cover that one just a totally blinkered opinion surely

 

[trueblue]

some very good discussion,
I think the ref made a balls up issuing the 2nd yellow card, I am not entirely sure it is a caution offence.
I have flicked through the laws of the game, power point presentations and it just mentions the punishment as an indirect free kick.

I assume the caution was for unsporting behaviour as the keeper messed up his throw and knew he had to touch the ball again because Buckley was right there. If he'd been all on his own it would have been just an indirect free kick.

This is where it's a shame refs can't be interviewed afterwards or at least provide a list with a line explaining each caution. Would increase everyone's understanding of the laws.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Would anyone care to look through the rules of football and find me the expression "Professional Foul"

It isn't there, but it is another name for a cynical 'take one for the team' type of foul. You're just being pedantic for the sake of it.

 

[maltaseagull]

A foul with excessive force doesn't need to deny a goal scoring opportunity, but Heaton's foul wasn't excessive force. It was cynical, and for me cynical fouls like that, the taking one for the team to stop counter attacks or whatever should be red card offences, but they are not.

Disregarding this specific incident I do agree that the "taking one for the team" should be more than a yellow. Maybe a 15 minute sin bin?

 

[Sergei's Celebration]

Not sure if fixtures but the extended highlights are on the player now with 3 angles and slow mo's.

 

[Janbha]

Mr Sheldrake should donate his match fee to a charity , firstly not sending Heaton off for the foul on Buckleys frankly is just laughable , but to then send Heaton for simply trying to make up for the awful mistake he , the ref , made earlier makes a mockery of the job he his being paid to do .

I dread to think referees operate in this fashion , even though it helped Brighton to a win how many times this season will we be on the wrong end of one of these awful refereeing howlers .

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Mr Sheldrake should donate his match fee to a charity , firstly not sending Heaton off for the foul on Buckleys frankly is just laughable , but to then send Heaton for simply trying to make up for the awful mistake he , the ref , made earlier makes a mockery of the job he his being paid to do .

I dread to think referees operate in this fashion , even though it helped Brighton to a win how many times this season will we be on the wrong end of one of these awful refereeing howlers .

As pointed out yesterday, this isn't the first time Sheldrake has been awful against us. He was the ref for the handball/penalty at Withdean when we played Bournemouth. Is he trying to outdo D'Urso?

 

[Acker79]

As pointed out yesterday, this isn't the first time Sheldrake has been awful against us. He was the ref for the handball/penalty at Withdean when we played Bournemouth. Is he trying to outdo D'Urso?

I think the bournemouth one was more the assistant's fault than the ref's.

 

[dougdeep]

I still think the ref was right as by this pic and from what I saw the keeper wasn't the last man and the keeper went for the ball. Outside of the box the keeper has the same rights as any other outfielder, but as he missed the ball and took the man then it's a yellow card unless it was dangerous or intentional.

 

[The Oldman]

I think, like 26,000 others he was a goner,

Can not wait till see the replay!

Any one out there think the ref got the call right?

I voted No to this question but the poll asks Red or Not? to which I would have answered Yes.

 

[albionite]

If you look at these pics it was an easy shot into a empty net once past the goalkeeper.

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=104&fid=297&sty=2&act=1&mid=2112295516

 

[Stat Brother]

If you look at these pics it was an easy shot into a empty net once past the goalkeeper.

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=104&fid=297&sty=2&act=1&mid=2112295516

The goalies only intention was to stop Buckley going past him - Red card.
The defender wasn't getting to the ball - goal.
The defender wasn't getting to the goal-line - goal.

A shocking decision.

 

[Carrot Cruncher]

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I still think the ref was right as by this pic and from what I saw the keeper wasn't the last man and the keeper went for the ball. Outside of the box the keeper has the same rights as any other outfielder, but as he missed the ball and took the man then it's a yellow card unless it was dangerous or intentional.

Wow, you are far, far more stupid than I could ever give you credit for. You're basing it on one still? You can tell absolutely nothing from that.

Watch the extended highlights from 5:35. There is no way anyone would've covered that and Buckley hardly deviated from a straight run. No way was he going towards the corner. You can use the straight line of the grass cutting when the camera zooms in on the replay around the 6 minute mark.

Sending off all day long.

 

[Acker79]

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I still think the ref was right as by this pic and from what I saw the keeper wasn't the last man and the keeper went for the ball. Outside of the box the keeper has the same rights as any other outfielder, but as he missed the ball and took the man then it's a yellow card unless it was dangerous or intentional.

or denies a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity.

18 yards out, just off centre, ball at your feet, no one between you and the goal. I'd say that was the definition of an obvious goal scoring opportunity.

 

[Carrot Cruncher]

or denies a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity.

18 yards out, just off centre, ball at your feet, no one between you and the goal. I'd say that was the definition of an obvious goal scoring opportunity.

Well, quite. It was wider than that, but your point is still valid.

 

[Albumen]

Straight red. All day.

 

[Luke93]

26,000 people saw that as a red yesterday. It really was a shocking decision.

 

[dougdeep]

Wow, you are far, far more stupid than I could ever give you credit for. You're basing it on one still? You can tell absolutely nothing from that.

Watch the extended highlights from 5:35. There is no way anyone would've covered that and Buckley hardly deviated from a straight run. No way was he going towards the corner. You can use the straight line of the grass cutting when the camera zooms in on the replay around the 6 minute mark.

Sending off all day long.

I was there. Just how important do you think you are that anyone that disagrees with you is stupid. Were you near the incident and have you done a referee's course? Did the ref have extended highlights?