[News] Heat emergency declared in England

[Herr Tubthumper]

I've been to the Black Forest on holiday and it is very hot. Berlin may not be but there are parts of Germany which get hot weather regularly.

This is my point though. We regularly have brief periods of extreme weather but, like the UK, we don’t have any of the measures you highlighted like altered working days, houses painted white etc and bringing my post back on topic we don’t have the hysteria. If it’s a lack of petrol or pasta or bog roll, or a day of hot weather, or a light dusting of snow, you do like a panic…KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON

 

[beorhthelm]

apparently a lot of parents asking if they should keep kids out of school. they'll be off to the Med next week.

 

[Swansman]

How can you swing between being a rather nice, funny chap with a healthy scepticism to this lunacy? Odd.

Independent thinking

Try it.

 

[BadFish]

To be fair the RAC probably have an insight into how unprepared the average motorist is in this country?

Your cars have air con don't they, they might be the coolest place to be.

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[Iggle Piggle]

I have heard this said so many times. It is ridiculous. We live in a temperate climate. Our infrastructure is set up to cope with a temperate climate. My brother lives in Canada and where he lives they have freezing temperatures from autumn until spring. They cope. Why? Because they have invested squillions in infrastructure to keep the country going because they have to. Does anyone here think that the government should spend a comparable amount of money on infrastructure so that we can avoid two bad snow days once every few years? It would be dumb.

Similar to heat. Our homes are set up to keep us warm. So if they get hot then it traps the heat whereas homes in hot countries are the opposite. We don’t have air con. We don’t have fans fitted when we don’t have air con. We have carpets rather than cold floors. Etc etc.

Our roads and rail are designed for the temperature we live in etc

Freak weather is not about us being soft and struggling. It is that our infrastructure just isn’t set up for it.

Quite. I appreciate most people are on the South coast but me and you aren't so probably have a different perspective (Nr Birmingham for the rest of you). The Brighton forecast is 28/29 so is a nice warm, what's the fuss about, summers day and it always feels a bit lower by the sea. Here, it's 37 degrees at 18:00 this evening with nothing in the way of breeze.

It's Portugal / Spain heat in English buildings. Kids at school in South facing glass buildings with no air con won't have much fun today. Whilst it's only 2 days, it's clear this will only get worse in years to come. That infrastructure debate may turn up here sooner than a lot of people think.

 

[Frutos]

https://twitter.com/simonharris_mbd/status/1548592791726563328?t=tny-7nVgulFRO1RswsjI8g&s=19

 

[The Clamp]

Your cars have air con don't they, they might be the coolest place to be.

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I’m just thinking of people taking time off work because of the heat, and piling down to the coast to join a traffic jam with nothing in their cars except some dusty old travel sweets and a Starbucks flat white

 

[BadFish]

Independent thinking

Try it.

Independent is good but there is plenty of quality thinking out there that you don't want to be independent of. The trick is recognising it.

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[Notters]

apparently a lot of parents asking if they should keep kids out of school. they'll be off to the Med next week.

Not sure what your point is really? It's going to be 8oC warmer than Valencia, 5oC warmer than Rome and 11oC warmer than Athens tomorrow and we don't have air con, etc.!

 

[The Clamp]

Independent thinking

Try it.

Evidence based thinking.

Try it.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

This is my point though. We regularly have brief periods of extreme weather but, like the UK, we don’t have any of the measures you highlighted like altered working days, houses painted white etc and bringing my post back on topic we don’t have the hysteria. If it’s a lack of petrol or pasta or bog roll, or a day of hot weather, or a light dusting of snow, you do like a panic…KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON

I hope the word in bold is a plural you and not me specifically. I am not a panic bosun.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I hope the word in bold is a plural you and not me specifically. I am not a panic bosun.

No, no it wasn’t. I meant the UK generally.

 

[Swansman]

Independent is good but there is plenty of quality thinking out there that you don't want to be independent of. The trick is recognising it.

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I'd say the trick is to try to understand the messenger, what they want to tell you and their purposes and agendas. Question everything, particularly if there is some global urge to make you believe something or make you think in a particular way.

Evidence based thinking.

Try it.

There's evidence for anything you want evidence for. If you want to believe the new ice age is coming, you'll find evidence if you want it, if you want to believe we're all going to burn to death, there's evidence for it.

 

[The Clamp]

I'd say the trick is to try to understand the messenger, what they want to tell you and their purposes and agendas. Question everything, particularly if there is some global urge to make you believe something or make you think in a particular way.

I do question. And I look at evidence.

All your rhetoric is thinly disguised climate crisis denial. It probably makes you feel safer.

Anyway, I shall disengage now. I don’t enjoy this conspiracy theory side to you. Chat again soon.

There's evidence for anything you want evidence for. If you want to believe the new ice age is coming, you'll find evidence if you want it, if you want to believe we're all going to burn to death, there's evidence for it.

All your rhetoric is thinly disguised climate crisis denial. It probably makes you feel safer.

Anyway, I shall disengage now. I don’t enjoy this conspiracy theory side to you. Chat again soon.


NB “there’s evidence for anything you want evidence for”

There really, really isn’t.

 

[LamieRobertson]

This is my point though. We regularly have brief periods of extreme weather but, like the UK, we don’t have any of the measures you highlighted like altered working days, houses painted white etc and bringing my post back on topic we don’t have the hysteria. If it’s a lack of petrol or pasta or bog roll, or a day of hot weather, or a light dusting of snow, you do like a panic…KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON

I could copy and paste more …is it really so perfect in Germany

https://youtu.be/NMKwaikzPQc

 

[LamieRobertson]

I know but that was much longer than 2 days (2 weeks+ of ‘extreme’ temps plus much longer just ‘hot’, not 2 days. The hype for such a short period is ridiculous.

Agreed…it’s almost creating a ‘panic’ (HWT will like that) …thank goodness we have reached day one

 

[LamieRobertson]

All your rhetoric is thinly disguised climate crisis denial. It probably makes you feel safer.

Anyway, I shall disengage now. I don’t enjoy this conspiracy theory side to you. Chat again soon.


NB “there’s evidence for anything you want evidence for”

There really, really isn’t.

You still on holiday?

 

[The Clamp]

You still on holiday?

Had to cover a shift last night but back on leave now. Good timing, weather wise. Trying to sleep in the day in this warmth would be torture.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Had to cover a shift last night but back on leave now. Good timing, weather wise. Trying to sleep in the day in this warmth would be torture.

Well enjoy!

My son has just done a 10pm/6am shift

 

[The Clamp]

Well enjoy!

My son has just done a 10pm/6am shift

Cheers mate! Weekend shifts are 15 hours for me. 17:30 to 08:30 :-/ weekdays are 11 hours.

10pm is a hard start time though, really throws the system.

So it’s shade and a few beers for me!

Have a good day