[News] Heat emergency declared in England

[BadFish]

Climate change is happening without doubt, but so is the propaganda war......

I keep seeing this in the social media trials and can't help but wonder if there is any evidence that this new weather forecast is actually designed to look like 'fear and destruction" or was it just an error of judgment in the selection of colours?

Come to think of it, I am unsure if this forecast has actually been used anywhere. What are the chances that this is a mock-up that someone has made in order to create their own propaganda? The language associated with it certainly has that feeling to me.

A closer look shows some odd choices of town in Scotland? Why show Oban and not Fort William? Surely way more of a land mark

Certainly a quick google shows no such weather map, apart from the one from this meme on social media.

Theses are the links i have found.

https://www.tbsnews.net/worldbiz/eu...-forecast-2050-set-come-true-next-week-459210

A news article about a hypothetical weather forecast coming to reality. Presumable the colours were deliberate here to show what may happen in the future (now)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-weather-forecast-blistering-41c-27496462

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12318313/uk-weather-scorching-36c-weekend-hotter-bahamas/

A couple of tabloids using the red colours but these are for far higher temperatures than the ones on the meme. And we know about their propensity for hyperbole. My guess is that the reason the meme makers didn't use there forecasts is that with the UK getting temps up to 40c it is really hard to add the last bit "its called summer" without acknowledging that 40c is a very unusual temp for that part of the world. They can just about get away with it on a map showing a top of 33. The question is: Have those colours actually been used on a map that shows a top of 33c?

Happy to be proven wrong and see the meme map in context. Although I kind of think you are right about the propaganda.

 

[Icy Gull]

I know Accuweather is often not that accurate but today’s shows 30 degrees at 1900 today being the hottest part of the day and low rising to mid twenties (with real feel being high twenties) during the day

 

[drew]

I know Accuweather is often not that accurate but today’s shows 30 degrees at 1900 today being the hottest part of the day and low rising to mid twenties (with real feel being high twenties) during the day

I assume that is for a specific part of the UK?

 

[Icy Gull]

I assume that is for a specific part of the UK?

Worthing

 

[um bongo molongo]

I know Accuweather is often not that accurate but today’s shows 30 degrees at 1900 today being the hottest part of the day and low rising to mid twenties (with real feel being high twenties) during the day

38 the high here in London on AccuWeather at 4pm today and 39 at 2pm tomorrow.

 

[beorhthelm]

I assume that is for a specific part of the UK?

probably the coast, we not expecting the high temps near the south coast, only into low-mid 30's.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I keep seeing this in the social media trials and can't help but wonder if there is any evidence that this new weather forecast is actually designed to look like 'fear and destruction" or was it just an error of judgment in the selection of colours?

Come to think of it, I am unsure if this forecast has actually been used anywhere. What are the chances that this is a mock-up that someone has made in order to create their own propaganda? The language associated with it certainly has that feeling to me.

A closer look shows some odd choices of town in Scotland? Why show Oban and not Fort William? Surely way more of a land mark

Certainly a quick google shows no such weather map, apart from the one from this meme on social media.

Theses are the links i have found.

https://www.tbsnews.net/worldbiz/eu...-forecast-2050-set-come-true-next-week-459210

A news article about a hypothetical weather forecast coming to reality. Presumable the colours were deliberate here to show what may happen in the future (now)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-weather-forecast-blistering-41c-27496462

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12318313/uk-weather-scorching-36c-weekend-hotter-bahamas/

A couple of tabloids using the red colours but these are for far higher temperatures than the ones on the meme. And we know about their propensity for hyperbole. My guess is that the reason the meme makers didn't use there forecasts is that with the UK getting temps up to 40c it is really hard to add the last bit "its called summer" without acknowledging that 40c is a very unusual temp for that part of the world. They can just about get away with it on a map showing a top of 33. The question is: Have those colours actually been used on a map that shows a top of 33c?

Happy to be proven wrong and see the meme map in context. Although I kind of think you are right about the propaganda.

Not sure what news you watch but we are getting it literally every day over here. A taster from the BBC website;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62201793

Merseyside is included in the blood red on the map despite the BBC themselves on their forecast page, somewhat ironically, now forecasting 34 today and 32 tomorrow. The problem with crying wolf is, well, we all know what the problem is…This kind of journalism is rightly mocked when it appears in the tabloids. All people are pointing out is that the BBC, Sky, the Guardian are doing exactly the same. The forecast for the next fortnight is back to 19 to 22 and rain but that isn’t being mentioned. What their motives are, well who knows.

 

[Bakero]

I know Accuweather is often not that accurate but today’s shows 30 degrees at 1900 today being the hottest part of the day and low rising to mid twenties (with real feel being high twenties) during the day

According to the Met office, Brighton will peak at 30 today and 31 tomorrow. 36 and 37 where I am in Worcestershire.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

https://twitter.com/aidanweather/status/1548603406541111297?s=21

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Not sure what news you watch but we are getting it literally every day over here. A taster from the BBC website;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62201793

Merseyside is included in the blood red on the map despite the BBC themselves on their forecast page, somewhat ironically, now forecasting 34 today and 32 tomorrow. The problem with crying wolf is, well, we all know what the problem is…This kind of journalism is rightly mocked when it appears in the tabloids. All people are pointing out is that the BBC, Sky, the Guardian are doing exactly the same. The forecast for the next fortnight is back to 19 to 22 and rain but that isn’t being mentioned. What their motives are, well who knows.

Liam Dutton of Ch 4 certainly says the temperature will start dropping after Tuesday to normal July levels.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

https://twitter.com/aidanweather/status/1548603406541111297?s=21

The maps he has posted at 34 degrees illustrate the big change people are commenting on. If it has been redesigned with darker and more dramatic colours to help people who are colour blind that’s fine and nobody would be mentioning it were they not accompanying it with such dramatic language using the blood red map as some kind of evidence. Not once have I seen the colour blindness disclaimer on the television.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

probably the coast, we not expecting the high temps near the south coast, only into low-mid 30's.

Coastal areas are helped by sea breezes. Inland areas are hotter, and temperatures can vary according to geography.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The maps he has posted at 34 degrees illustrate the big change people are commenting on. If it has been redesigned with darker and more dramatic colours to help people who are colour blind that’s fine and nobody would be mentioning it were they not using such dramatic language. He actually sounds like a bit of a conspiracy theorist himself.

Have you read all 8 tweets explaining it?

 

[Poojah]

End of the week where you are it looks like it'll be 19 - 20 degrees cooler than Tuesday... that's mad!! Nothing like those extremes down here (on the coast at least) it seems - 30ish then back to 22/23 by end of the week

Now forecast to hit 40 in Leeds tomorrow. I remember experiencing that kind of temperature in Dubai a few years back; it was too hot to even sun bathe and I recall thinking at the time how fortunate I was to live in a country where those kind of temperatures weren’t possible. No way can this be passed off as “summer”. It’s not normal, at least historically.

My dear old mum quoted the summer of ‘76 line, citing the fact that they had hosepipe vans then, so it must have been worse. That argument of course confuses longevity of the heat with extremity. That summer peaked at 35.9°C, meaning parts of the UK are set to exceed that by a full 5 degrees, or 14%. That kind of increase over and above a period in time apparently remembered by so many for its excessive heat almost 40 years later just has to be statistically significant, doesn’t it?

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Have you read all 8 tweets explaining it?

I read down to the bottom yes. I have no problem with the changes he and his colleagues have made, particularly now he has (a bit late) actually explained it. I do think the maps shouldn’t be used in the way they have been by tv presenters. Cut the overly dramatic language and people won’t comment on the overly dramatic new colour scheme.

 

[Justice]

I could understand the panic if it was going to be for two three weeks of hitting 40 but two days really?

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Have you read all 8 tweets explaining it?

Clearly not. I spent 15 minutes refinding that tweet only to see it had been posted already.

 

[Bry Nylon]

BBC Breakfast doing their usual “there’s a high chance we’re all going to DIE so don’t do THIS or THIS” - and then doing exactly that - reporting that they specialise in during periods of extreme weather.

The main presenter just looked earnestly down the camera and urged people not to light fires today, then handed over live to a reporter at a campsite in Exmoor who enthusiastically pointed at a smoking fire-pit and said “morning Mike! We’ve got the bacon and eggs on the go already!”

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I could understand the panic if it was going to be for two three weeks of hitting 40 but two days really?

Same here. We’ve been up to 35-36 two or three times this year over here already but without any of the pant-pissing seen in the UK.

 

[BadFish]

Not sure what news you watch but we are getting it literally every day over here. A taster from the BBC website;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62201793

Merseyside is included in the blood red on the map despite the BBC themselves on their forecast page, somewhat ironically, now forecasting 34 today and 32 tomorrow. The problem with crying wolf is, well, we all know what the problem is…This kind of journalism is rightly mocked when it appears in the tabloids. All people are pointing out is that the BBC, Sky, the Guardian are doing exactly the same. The forecast for the next fortnight is back to 19 to 22 and rain but that isn’t being mentioned. What their motives are, well who knows.

Australian news, the whole map is red . . . not at the moment it is cold.

The point I was making was that the map in the meme has the ominous dark red and black colours with similar temperatures to the old map on the left. This is misleading and makes me suspicous that those colours have not been used for those temperatures. Again happy to be proven wrong. The one you posted had a red colour for 40c which is surely fairly reasonable? I hate it when it gets up over 40 and think that red expresses its horrendousness quite accurately

Like I say I don't know as I am not looking at your forecasts but something about that meme doesn't sit right with me. It is misleading that the dark red and black colours I have read the explanation on the twitter feed which seems like a more convincing reason for the changes than . . . 'fear and destruction' and 'propagana' (cockney having a good look)"