Hawsey and Harty

[Westdene Seagull]

I sell programmes , so does that make me an employee ?

Do the club pay you ? If so, then yes you're an employee ( unless you work for yourself and invoice the club as a contractor ).

 

[Garage_Doors]

Do the club pay you ? If so, then yes you're an employee ( unless you work for yourself and invoice the club as a contractor ).

In that case, add to me the list of BHA employee's who post on the NSC

 

[backson]

Argus are reporting that Hawesy is back, nothing is being said about Harty.

Argus

 

[Dirty Dave]

it was said on SCR after the P'borough game, Hawsey would be back this Saturday

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Argus are reporting that Hawesy is back, nothing is being said about Harty.

Argus

12:00pm Thursday 23rd October 2008

Disabled jibe host back on air

By Samuel Underwood

A radio presenter who insulted disabled people live on air will be back at work on Saturday.

Andrew Hawes and fellow presenter Ian Hart were suspended from BBC Southern Counties for using the phrase “window licker” – a derogatory term for a disabled person.

The gaffes came after a Brighton and Hove Albion match earlier this month.

Yesterday the BBC confirmed that Mr Hawes will be back on the air for his show on Saturday but refused to confirm whether Mr Hart would be joining him.

A disciplinary hearing for Mr Hawes is reported to have taken place on Friday but a BBC spokeswoman refused to reveal the outcome and said the company would not comment on staff issues.

The Argus understands Mr Hart will face a disciplinary hearing next week.

It seems certain he will be sacked from a post he has held for ten years despite growing calls for his reinstatement.

There is speculation that some BBC executives are privately uneasy about his treatment and would like to see him back hosting the phone-in.

Hart has been buoyed by massive support from senior figures at the Albion and from Seagulls fans and listeners.

The club and a series of charities for the disabled have publicly backed him.

Sussex Seals said its members adored him and that the matter was “political correctness gone extremely mad”.

It was believed just two people, out of 40,000 listeners, officially complained about Mr Hart’s comment. The offending remarks were made during a row about manager Micky Adams after Albion’s win over Leyton Orient.

They prompted outrage from disability groups despite instant apologies from Mr Hart on air.

A spokeswoman for Mencap said: “We are appalled that such offensive language is still used.

“People with a learning disability are a valuable part of our society and it is a disgrace that they are treated as objects to make fun of.”




This is all very odd.

The Argus understands Mr Hart will face a disciplinary hearing next week.

It seems certain he will be sacked from a post he has held for ten years despite growing calls for his reinstatement.

There is speculation that some BBC executives are privately uneasy about his treatment and would like to see him back hosting the phone-in.

Who have the Argus been talking to? Who says "it seems certain that he will be sacked"? Who are the BBC executives who are "privately uneasy about his treatment and would like to see him back hosting the phone-in"? Do they intend to intervene? Or are they content to keep their unease "private"?

It looks to me like the BBC aren't handling this at all well.

 

[Mendoza]

It is all very odd indeed and doesnt match up at all with what I have heard from my SAUCE just before kick off of the Hereford game

 

[buller89]

It is all very odd indeed and doesnt match up at all with what I have heard from my SAUCE just before kick off of the Hereford game

You are indeed NSC's most stalked. I witnessed you shaking hands and talking with Harty before the Hereford game from my seat in D block

 

[The Large One]

The Argus understands Mr Hart will face a disciplinary hearing next week.

It seems certain he will be sacked from a post he has held for ten years despite growing calls for his reinstatement.

There is speculation that some BBC executives are privately uneasy about his treatment and would like to see him back hosting the phone-in.

Who have the Argus been talking to? Who says "it seems certain that he will be sacked"? Who are the BBC executives who are "privately uneasy about his treatment and would like to see him back hosting the phone-in"? Do they intend to intervene? Or are they content to keep their unease "private"?

It looks to me like the BBC aren't handling this at all well.

I think they're handling it appallingly.

Assuming that there is a source within the BBC that has spoken to the Argus, it looks like Harty's hearing has been pre-judged and is a foregone conclusion. That doesn't sound much like a 'hearing' - more a kangaroo court.

 

[Mendoza]

You are indeed NSC's most stalked. I witnessed you shaking hands and talking with Harty before the Hereford game from my seat in D block

Ha ha, and from that moment, you know exactly who my source is for the story of what happened to Ian Hart. Probably the most reliable source of them all

 

[Statto]

I have heard from a very reliable source that Ian Hart has been sacked.

 

[The Large One]

Sacked - AHEAD of any disciplinary hearing?

That doesn't sound right.

 

[Statto]

Sacked - AHEAD of any disciplinary hearing?

That doesn't sound right.

Well basically its only second hand so I may have it slightly wrong. My next door neighbour is a very close relative of someone who works for BBC scr, on the albion games. The were speeking to my dad about it. Id better not say anymore.

 

[buller89]

Ha ha, and from that moment, you know exactly who my source is for the story of what happened to Ian Hart. Probably the most reliable source of them all

Can't argue with that.

 

[fleet]

It seems certain he will be sacked from a post he has held for ten years despite growing calls for his reinstatement.


I feel like part of a growing cal!

 

[Brovion]

Despite the fact I don't listen to the phone in I am pissed of with what really IS 'political correctness gone mad' - although I HATE the phrase.

I had an uncle who was a 'windowlicker' (brain damaged at birth), I've done voluntary work for mentally handicapped people and spastics (don't give a shit if either of those terms offends anyone) and I've always given to mental health charities. But I shall stop if Harty isn't re-instated with a grovelling apology from SCR for dragging his good name through the mud.

 

[vulture]

wonder who the 2 wankers that compalined where

 

[Frutos]

wonder who the 2 wankers that compalined where

Apparently a certain poster on this forum has it in his head that I was one of them.

I'd like to categorically state here and now that I was not.

 

[Knotty]

Despite the fact I don't listen to the phone in I am pissed of with what really IS 'political correctness gone mad' - although I HATE the phrase.

I had an uncle who was a 'windowlicker' (brain damaged at birth), I've done voluntary work for mentally handicapped people and spastics (don't give a shit if either of those terms offends anyone) and I've always given to mental health charities. But I shall stop if Harty isn't re-instated with a grovelling apology from SCR for dragging his good name through the mud.

Agreed about the political correctness - totally OTT. Hopefully someone at BBC SCR will read what you have written about your personal involvement and pass it on to the decision-makers.

Doubt it, though.

 

[keaton]

It was believed just two people, out of 40,000 listeners, officially complained about Mr Hart’s comment. .

Aye? 40,000 listeners? to the phone in? No

 

[Brovion]

wonder who the 2 wankers that compalined where

Rumor has it - and it is just a rumor - that one of them posts on here. I frankly find that unbelievable. If that is the case then wisely they haven't admitted it, but that's just meant that the finger of suspicion gets pointed at any one.