[Football] Has Nathan Bitten Off More Than He Can Chew? - Sacked 12/02/2023

[Insel affe]

Does being a Born Again Christian make you into a religious nut job?

I hope not, or l am in trouble.

Obviously the answer is no it does not, some people who are "born again" can throw themselves into it fervently to the extent it is all consuming and can alter the persons sense of reality, in an effort to over compensate for supposedly losing ones way. I have first hand experience with my fathar in-law unfortunately, to the extent he does not believe dinosaurs existed, and has some other rather scary beliefs..

Being brought up in a religious family, I turned my back on it all at a very young age, and can see the harm and good it can do.
I firmly believe if there is a god or gods, you do not need to prey in a church or other specific building to worship, surly the world is your church, be kind and respect everyone you meet, try and understand their points of view and their actions, why, and how they see the world. If they are disrespectful, bigoted, racist, homophobic and have all the facts in front of them and choose to ignore them, let them be, let them wallow in their own ignorance, don't engage further
Folk who do this in the name of religion are to me religious nutjobs, there are plenty who are nutjobs who are not religious we must add.

Faith should be faith in humanity as a whole.

 

[Horses Arse]

Does being a Born Again Christian make you into a religious nut job?

I hope not, or l am in trouble.

No I don't think it does, but those who take religion as factual rather than as a philosophy raise my suspicions.

Religion needs to evolve as we have all evolved - there's a need for the spiritual side of religion for sure. Nathan strikes me as a hellfire type of guy, I.e. a nut job

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Obviously the answer is no it does not, some people who are "born again" can throw themselves into it fervently to the extent it is all consuming and can alter the persons sense of reality, in an effort to over compensate for supposedly losing ones way. I have first hand experience with my fathar in-law unfortunately, to the extent he does not believe dinosaurs existed, and has some other rather scary beliefs..

Being brought up in a religious family, I turned my back on it all at a very young age, and can see the harm and good it can do.
I firmly believe if there is a god or gods, you do not need to prey in a church or other specific building to worship, surly the world is your church, be kind and respect everyone you meet, try and understand their points of view and their actions, why, and how they see the world. If they are disrespectful, bigoted, racist, homophobic and have all the facts in front of them and choose to ignore them, let them be, let them wallow in their own ignorance, don't engage further
Folk who do this in the name of religion are to me religious nutjobs, there are plenty who are nutjobs who are not religious we must add.

Faith should be faith in humanity as a whole.

Indeed, we all have a choice as to how we decide to live our lives. On many occasions unfortunately, if l have chosen to tell someone that l am Born Again, it has killed any conversation stone dead.

Just because l have my faith it doesn't turn me into a different species of human being.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

No I don't think it does, but those who take religion as factual rather than as a philosophy raise my suspicions.

Religion needs to evolve as we have all evolved - there's a need for the spiritual side of religion for sure. Nathan strikes me as a hellfire type of guy, I.e. a nut job

Indeed, but l don't think his religion has too much to do with it. I've a feeling he has always lived his life that way, long before he turned to God.

 

[Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ]

Indeed, we all have a choice as to how we decide to live our lives. On many occasions unfortunately, if l have chosen to tell someone that l am Born Again, it has killed any conversation stone dead.

Just because l have my faith it doesn't turn me into a different species of human being.

Out of curiosity, and in no way is this supposed to be having a dig, why do you feel the need to tell people you are a "born again" Christian, rather than just a "Christian"?

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Indeed, we all have a choice as to how we decide to live our lives. On many occasions unfortunately, if l have chosen to tell someone that l am Born Again, it has killed any conversation stone dead.

Just because l have my faith it doesn't turn me into a different species of human being.

Absolutely however, it doesn’t automatically make you a better person, which a disproportionate number of Religous types and born agains seems to think it does.

FWIW, I don’t believe that Jones’s religion has anything to him being a dickhead as a I suspect he’s always been a knob.

 

[Horses Arse]

Indeed, but l don't think his religion has too much to do with it. I've a feeling he has always lived his life that way, long before he turned to God.

Quite possibly so

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Indeed, we all have a choice as to how we decide to live our lives. On many occasions unfortunately, if l have chosen to tell someone that l am Born Again, it has killed any conversation stone dead.

Just because l have my faith it doesn't turn me into a different species of human being.

What made you become born again? I appreciate this might be super personal so please ignore my question if you want. I am genuinely curious though.

For the record, I am ambivalent to religion but I can see the benefit. I also feel we all need “something” to believe in….whatever that might be.

 

[Insel affe]

Out of curiosity, and in no way is this supposed to be having a dig, why do you feel the need to tell people you are a "born again" Christian, rather than just a "Christian"?

I understand your question, and sometimes wonder why the necessity to call yourself born again, probably nothing more than a reminder you had "fallen"

But lets derail this thread about dear ol'Nathan eh and make someone feel uncomfortable, I know your probably looking to derail it, but you just need one "nutjob" to see this as a green light to belittle or attack someone on here.

 

[Lenny Rider]

I understand your question, and sometimes wonder why the necessity to call yourself born again, probably nothing more than a reminder you had "fallen"

But lets derail this thread about dear ol'Nathan eh and make someone feel uncomfortable, I know your probably looking to derail it, but you just need one "nutjob" to see this as a green light to belittle or attack someone on here.

Haven't we all fallen?

Back to the main topic and dear old Nath, more drowning than fallen.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

What made you become born again? I appreciate this might be super personal so please ignore my question if you want. I am genuinely curious though.

For the record, I am ambivalent to religion but I can see the benefit. I also feel we all need “something” to believe in….whatever that might be.

A good friend of mine actually. I was becoming rather disallusioned with certain things, and looking for answers as to the meaning of life l suppose.

He was the pastor of a newly planted Church in the village, l went along one Sunday, l was baptized in 1997 at the age of 41, and the rest as they say is history.

I do realise that it isn't for everyone though, and as l said in an earlier post, we all have the right to make our own choices.

 

[rippleman]

No I don't think it does, but those who take religion as factual rather than as a philosophy raise my suspicions.

Religion needs to evolve as we have all evolved - there's a need for the spiritual side of religion for sure. Nathan strikes me as a hellfire type of guy, I.e. a nut job

But religion has most certainly NOT evolved in the slightest and shows no inclination to do so as it continues to treat the LGBTQ+ community as unimportant and not worthy of the same treatment as straight Christians. The bishops won't even allow the general Synod to vote on the issue of allowing gay marriage.

Sandi Toksvig: I can't let the Church of England hurt LGBT people

Church of England synod will vote on plans to allow blessings, but not marriage, for gay couples.

www.bbc.co.uk

#comeoutforlove (unless you are a CofE bishop of course)

 

[Pavilionaire]

Is that the British Transport Police? Good, there's been a tragic derailment...

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

But religion has most certainly NOT evolved in the slightest and shows no inclination to do so as it continues to treat the LGBTQ+ community as unimportant and not worthy of the same treatment as straight Christians. The bishops won't even allow the general Synod to vote on the issue of allowing gay marriage.

Sandi Toksvig: I can't let the Church of England hurt LGBT people

Church of England synod will vote on plans to allow blessings, but not marriage, for gay couples.

www.bbc.co.uk

#comeoutforlove (unless you are a CofE bishop of course)

To my mind having a faith, and being religious are two rather different things. Certainly in my case, l could have nothing to do with the Church of England.

 

[JBizzle]

A good friend of mine actually. I was becoming rather disallusioned with certain things, and looking for answers as to the meaning of life l suppose.

He was the pastor of a newly planted Church in the village, l went along one Sunday, l was baptized in 1997 at the age of 41, and the rest as they say is history.

I do realise that it isn't for everyone though, and as l said in an earlier post, we all have the right to make our own choices.

This is the key piece for me, and maybe what sets you apart. I am not religious but I have no issue at all with those who are. There's something reassuring about having a moral code defined in a structure that provides comfort and guidance through one's life.

Where I do take issue is when those beliefs are used not only to guide your life, but imposed on others because they have a different set of beliefs.

Anyway, Jones is toast... Fans don't like him, players probably don't now either and when you're coating off your own fans and players, the end is surely nigh

 

[Insel affe]

Anyway, Jones is toast... Fans don't like him, players probably don't now either and when you're coating off your own fans and players, the end is surely nigh

Please God Nooooooooooooooooo

I am enjoying this soooo much

 

[JBizzle]

Please God Nooooooooooooooooo

I am enjoying this soooo much

I mean, I am SO excited about his next presser.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

A good friend of mine actually. I was becoming rather disallusioned with certain things, and looking for answers as to the meaning of life l suppose.

He was the pastor of a newly planted Church in the village, l went along one Sunday, l was baptized in 1997 at the age of 41, and the rest as they say is history.

I do realise that it isn't for everyone though, and as l said in an earlier post, we all have the right to make our own choices.

Thank you for sharing.

 

[rippleman]

Is that the British Transport Police? Good, there's been a tragic derailment...

Yeah. Soz. Mea culpa

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Where I do take issue is when those beliefs are used not only to guide your life, but imposed on others because they have a different set of beliefs.

But this can be aimed at most things in life. In fact, you have just described politics and social media….and veganism.