roz said:
Especially when after a long week at the Public Inquiry he's got to endure the NSC Sponsored Match next Saturday!
Ah, yes Martin's favourite game. I had to duck out this year due to finances but hope we can hear you singing over there
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Ah, yes Martin's favourite game. I had to duck out this year due to finances but hope we can hear you singing over there
London Irish
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Listening to a tape of the phone-in, I was surprised and delighted to hear that Martin Perry thinks the club could proceed with a stadium at Sheepcote even in the unlikely event that this site knocked Falmer out of the race.
The inquiry is looking like a win-win situation for us
The inquiry is looking like a win-win situation for us
SussexSpur
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London Irish said:Listening to a tape of the phone-in, I was surprised and delighted to hear that Martin Perry thinks the club could proceed with a stadium at Sheepcote even in the unlikely event that this site knocked Falmer out of the race.
The inquiry is looking like a win-win situation for us
Can understand some sense in that, but had the impression the primary aim right now was to prove how every site other than Falmer was not at all feasible?
Appreciate the 'Whatever-this-outcome-Prescott's-approved-a-new-stadium-somewhere' argument, but a little surprised if one of the alternative options is being given some kind of a thumbs-up at this stage.
Wasn't the Falmer case always more an 'otherwise-apocalyptic' argument than just a 'BETTER-than-X-Y-or-Z' option?
Lord Bracknell
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Don't get the idea that the Club are saying that they would be happy to end up at Sheepcote Valley.
Apart from anything else, it would be more expensive than Falmer, because there would be additional costs - like relocating the existing facilities that would be displaced by the stadium.
And - like everone else in Brighton & Hove - the Club would suffer from the fact that transport access at Sheepcote would be appalling.
Apart from anything else, it would be more expensive than Falmer, because there would be additional costs - like relocating the existing facilities that would be displaced by the stadium.
And - like everone else in Brighton & Hove - the Club would suffer from the fact that transport access at Sheepcote would be appalling.
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SussexSpur
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No, of course - I've been given little doubt plenty of times the club wouldn't be happy to end up at Sheepcote Valley.
Just intrigued by the varying use and power of - to deploy a very New Labour-loved word - 'nuances'.
Are potential costs to the club a likely factor to weigh heavily with an inquiry inspector when finalising his report?
Just intrigued by the varying use and power of - to deploy a very New Labour-loved word - 'nuances'.
Are potential costs to the club a likely factor to weigh heavily with an inquiry inspector when finalising his report?
London Irish
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SussexSpur said:
Indeed, hence my surprise (and happiness) at this shift in tone from the club.
But what I think Martin Perry was saying, was that even in this worst-case scenario of Prescott adjudging Sheepcote to be the best site, then stick a planning application in for that, and Prescott couldn't call in Sheepcote for an inquiry given that he'd already ruled it the best site.
Now, you could argue that the club had made a £3m misjudgment over Falmer, but surely that would pale into significance in terms of at last having a viable site to build on.
What Perry appears to be saying is, if it came down to a choice between the club folding or f***ing up East Brighton with a load of traffic, we'd be brave enough to take the choice to save the club.
This sounds like a Plan B to me.
But it's all academic, because Prescott will adhere to his own sustainability guidelines on transport *insert prayer here* and WE WILL GET the best site of Falmer!
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SussexSpur
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London Irish said:
Yep, gotcha, as suspected. Yes-ish indeed then.
Lord Bracknell
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The other thing that shouldn't be overlooked is that if the Club had submitted a planning application three years ago for Sheepcote Valley, it would have been CERTAIN to have been turned down - because these days all major developments have to demonstrate that they comply with local transport policy and government planning guidance on transport.
It's a different matter, of course, if the Deputy Prime Minister kicks off a planning application by saying that he is prepared to ignore his own planning guidance in this particular instance.
It's a different matter, of course, if the Deputy Prime Minister kicks off a planning application by saying that he is prepared to ignore his own planning guidance in this particular instance.
Dave the OAP
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that was what my final point was going to be, but time cut in!
I am not convinced B&H Council would approve a planning application for Sheepcoat, because of the transport issues.
That is why I was getting so nervous about all this talk concerning Sheepcoat
I am not convinced B&H Council would approve a planning application for Sheepcoat, because of the transport issues.
That is why I was getting so nervous about all this talk concerning Sheepcoat
Easy 10
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A local council CANNOT overrule the Secretary of State anyway.teaboy said:
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Lord Bracknell said:
Which, of course, he hasn't, as his letter stated.
From the various reports coming back from the Inquiry it seems that Sheepcote is similar to Falmer in a lot of respects, but that transport issue is a biggie where it fails to meet the criteria set by the ODPM.
Lord Bracknell
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Indeed.Curious Orange said:
The scenario that is being discussed is what happens if his final decision letter gives the nod to Sheepcote Valley.
It won't of course give us PERMISSION to build at Sheepcote. But, assuming JP decides to abandon his own policies on sustainable transport, it could kick start a planning application to the City Council to build a stadium at Sheepcote Valley.
As Martin Parry said yesterday on SCR, it would be perverse of Prescott then to call it in for a further Public Inquiry.
Lush
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dave the gaffer said:
That was quite mild compared to what he was saying DURING the game.
Just before he sat down on the terraces with his head in his hands...
And I have to say I have some sympathy...
Blackadder
Brighton Bhuna Boy
I didn't hear all of Harty yesterday but I did hear Harty having a heated discussion with a fan called Darren? who was at the game.
How do people who are at an away game hear previous callers as You can't get SCR in Cardiff?
Do people listen to the radio show on their mobiles while they are waiting for their turn?
How do people who are at an away game hear previous callers as You can't get SCR in Cardiff?
Do people listen to the radio show on their mobiles while they are waiting for their turn?
Buzza said:
When they ring you back you can usually hear the previous caller or maybe two depending on how quick they are.
You then get a voice telling when you are due to speak 'you'll be on after this or after the interview with Mark McGhee' etc
Baz, why does Harty make you angry ??
Tom Hark Preston Park
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roz said:I'm sure I can live with it, Yorkie. Martin doesn't need to trouble his head with minions like me having a creative moment!
Especially when after a long week at the Public Inquiry he's got to endure the NSC Sponsored Match next Saturday!
Always a favourite sight at the NSC-sponsored matches - Martin Perry hopping up and down in his anorak behind the NSC krew, frantically waving at them to keep the noise down! Bless