Happy Harvest Swansea Tuesday

[Bozza]

I'll be honest I'd be suprised if they breached data protection on any of this. Their terms and conditions and privacy notices make it pretty clear what they'll do with you're information. In this particular case they won't be passing anything on to anyone only checking to make sure that you are actually using your ticket.

It's more the host club (eg Bournemouth) supplying data to the Albion that enables the Albion to identify fans and what they've done.

The Albion have fan data and details of tickets sold to them.

The host club have data of what tickets are used to enter the ground and when.

Each of those datasets, independently, do not reveal anything at all.

It's when the host club provide their data to the Albion that the club are then able to know what fans did with their tickets. We've not agreed for host clubs to share data about us in that way.

 

[Nixonator]

But if you look up the laws on data protection there are limits to what you can do legally with data, and especially PII data, generally and also without direct and explicit consent. There's also a section of law about using data in excess of its purpose (can't recall the exact legal term) and in this case I'd suggest that the processing of PII to check allocation of 5 loyalty points is way way in excess and cannot be justified. Bournemouth also state on their website they do not share your data with anyone, so by your very own belief the Albion are complicit with breached data protection.

Something tells me this might have been mentioned at the board meeting before releasing a statement.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Something tells me this might have been mentioned at the board meeting before releasing a statement.

I have no idea.

 

[Munkfish]

Still 60+ left.

If this was a 3000 ticket allocation there would still be well over 1000 remaining.

 

[m20gull]

But if you look up the laws on data protection there are limits to what you can do legally with data, and especially PII data, generally and also without direct and explicit consent. There's also a section of law about using data in excess of its purpose (can't recall the exact legal term) and in this case I'd suggest that the processing of PII to check allocation of 5 loyalty points is way way in excess and cannot be justified. Bournemouth also state on their website they do not share your data with anyone, so by your very own belief the Albion are complicit with breached data protection.

What you have agreed to is covered in the club's Privacy Policy here: https://www.seagullstickets.com/screenloader.aspx?type=include&page=documents/html/privacypolicy.html. This seems to encapsulate the data protection principles.

As far as fans' relationship with Bournemouth is concerned I'm not sure they have one. If Brighton sell the tickets as an agent Personal Data is probably not even shared with Bournemouth so they cannot be data processors under the act.

My caveat - I may be a bit rusty on DPA but had annual training until last year.

Explicit consent is only required for sensitive information (sexuality, health).

 

[Braggfan]

It's more the host club (eg Bournemouth) supplying data to the Albion that enables the Albion to identify fans and what they've done.

The Albion have fan data and details of tickets sold to them.

The host club have data of what tickets are used to enter the ground and when.

Each of those datasets, independently, do not reveal anything at all.

It's when the host club provide their data to the Albion that the club are then able to know what fans did with their tickets. We've not agreed for host clubs to share data about us in that way.

You're right that it would arguably be Bournemouth's problem if they shared information with us. What information would bournemouth share? CCTV? I'd be amazed if they didn't have something in their CCTV policy that covered this.

 

[Braggfan]

But if you look up the laws on data protection there are limits to what you can do legally with data, and especially PII data, generally and also without direct and explicit consent. There's also a section of law about using data in excess of its purpose (can't recall the exact legal term) and in this case I'd suggest that the processing of PII to check allocation of 5 loyalty points is way way in excess and cannot be justified. Bournemouth also state on their website they do not share your data with anyone, so by your very own belief the Albion are complicit with breached data protection.

Direct and explicit consent isn't law yet, that will change with the new GDPR laws. I'm not exactly sure what information would be shared. As in Bozza's post I would think it would potentially be Bournemouth's issue if they share information with us but again I think you'd be hard pushed to argue it was excessice. Both Brighton and Bournemouth could be said to have legitimate reasons, which is coverd by data protection. Processing ticket holders information wouldn't be a problem for the clubs, because the club have set out the conditions of sale and implied consent would apply to that.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

What you have agreed to is covered in the club's Privacy Policy here: https://www.seagullstickets.com/screenloader.aspx?type=include&page=documents/html/privacypolicy.html. This seems to encapsulate the data protection principles.

As far as fans' relationship with Bournemouth is concerned I'm not sure they have one. If Brighton sell the tickets as an agent Personal Data is probably not even shared with Bournemouth so they cannot be data processors under the act.

My caveat - I may be a bit rusty on DPA but had annual training until last year.

Explicit consent is only required for sensitive information (sexuality, health).

I'll take a look but I am sure that ones movements, ie attendance at a football match, can be classified as "personal data".

 

[The red pepper kid]

Did anyone else not get charged a booking fee or was it just me ?

just you, they (the club ) have got it in for you

 

[Bold Seagull]

I'll take a look but I am sure that ones movements, ie attendance at a football match, can be classified as "personal data".

Bournemouth are not releasing personal data though, they're just saying ticket no.xxxx went through their turnstile.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Bournemouth are not releasing personal data though, they're just saying ticket no.xxxx went through their turnstile.

When it's coupled with the data Brighton have it becomes personal.

 

[Bold Seagull]

When it's coupled with the data Brighton have it becomes personal.

It's not being released though is it?

If Bournemouth issue their data to Brighton, and Brighton don't release anything and keep that information secure, where is the data protection issue?

 

[soistes]

What you have agreed to is covered in the club's Privacy Policy here: https://www.seagullstickets.com/screenloader.aspx?type=include&page=documents/html/privacypolicy.html. This seems to encapsulate the data protection principles.

As far as fans' relationship with Bournemouth is concerned I'm not sure they have one. If Brighton sell the tickets as an agent Personal Data is probably not even shared with Bournemouth so they cannot be data processors under the act.

My caveat - I may be a bit rusty on DPA but had annual training until last year.

Explicit consent is only required for sensitive information (sexuality, health).

But I was reliably led to believe by a noisy chap I met at the Leicester match that simply identifying someone as a Brighton fan is sufficient to be certain about their sexuality.

 

[empire]

I heard some brought afcb tickets ie 20plus then paid another fan who was going to scan them all,kept on saying he left his phone in car,I wonder if they will be caught on cctv

 

[ofco8]

Just bought mine. Said 8 left. Whether that was the area I bought in or total, not sure.

 

[theboybilly]

I heard some brought afcb tickets ie 20plus then paid another fan who was going to scan them all,kept on saying he left his phone in car,I wonder if they will be caught on cctv

And you believed that?

 

[dazzer6666]

Only 8 left, all wheelchair area only.

 

[dazzer6666]

1 (non disabled area) ticket available atm.......

 

[Munkfish]

10 seats left, 1 in the upper 9 in the lower.

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

14 tickets now showing.

Removes the closed shop argument.