[Misc] Guardian Tabloid

[Triggaaar]

I'm always changing your opinion on things [emoji6]

Yeah I suppose.

 

[Bodian]

I find the Telegraph is best for lighting the fire, the Guardian is ok but the DM is rubbish.

I don't want to bang the Telegraph drum, but it's also the best for drying out wet shoes & trainers.

My elderly neighbours take the Telegraph and two doors down have the Mail - I sort out all their recycling for them, so shall give it a go!

(I suppose there you have it in a microcosm really. It's The Guardian reader who sorts out the recycling and takes the bins up the lane for the Telegraph & Mail readers, who are quite happy to let someone else do it for them.....)

 

[vegster]

Well, well, well. Fancy that. You were right all along -and your bias was confirmed. How can you be so sure that it is "pretty much without a slant" when you are being informed about something about which you know little? Having seen how the East Germans reported everything in the 1980s, you don't have to lie about anything. You just concentrate on one issue and miss out the inconvenient bits.

Sorry to disappoint you but the stories covered were stories covered on other media, no big stories overlooked or not reported on, but don't give up your preconceived notions and bias because of this.

 

[vegster]

Funniest thing that I have read on NSC ever! I expect many Daily mail readers would say the same though.

Bless, you are so easily pleased.

 

[Hastings gull]

Sorry to disappoint you but the stories covered were stories covered on other media, no big stories overlooked or not reported on, but don't give up your preconceived notions and bias because of this.

They may well have been covered on other media, but that on its own means very little. So what? Its what was concentrated on or any conclusion arrived at, which is the telling point, and let's be honest -you are not going to be too questioning, are you? It is your paper of choice.

 

[bobby baxter]

Its the lefts version of the Daily Mail, so not really fit for purpose in any shape it comes in.

Surely that would be The Morning Star?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Bless, you are so easily pleased.

True. In all seriousness though, I would recommend doing a critical thinking course/qualification, it may open your eyes to previously unseen bias.

 

[vegster]

True. In all seriousness though, I would recommend doing a critical thinking course/qualification, it may open your eyes to previously unseen bias.

So someone who is biased has told me to do a course in order to see unseen bias ? wow, just wow !

 

[JC Footy Genius]

So someone who is biased has told me to do a course in order to see unseen bias ? wow, just wow !

Yes, I have a bias, we all do. But that's a different matter to identifying it in news sources. It was a Genuine suggestion. Teaching critical thinking at school as a core subject would really open the eyes of the future electorate .. which is probably why they would never introduce it (plus it gives you a migraine).

 

[looney]

Its the paper of choice for the mentally ill that nobody reads. So immersed in identity politics its impossible to have an intelligent conversation with a reader, ive tried a couple of times.

 

[Hastings gull]

So someone who is biased has told me to do a course in order to see unseen bias ? wow, just wow !

But that is precisely the point. JC is biased, as he admits and as I am and we no secret of it - you pretend that what you are reading is totally objective; you pick up the paper, analyse what is written from a variety of angles, and then come to the conclusion that the left wing stance must be right.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Its the lefts version of the Daily Mail, so not really fit for purpose in any shape it comes in.

Cobblers. It doesn't make up stufflikethe Daily Mail does.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Take out the editorials and the op-eds and you have a newspaper that tells the truth pretty much without a slant. I work with a 25 year old lad who is convinced the Grauniad is far left wing of the Trotskyite Party that spouts constant radical agendas. He joined me for lunch in the staff room last Saturday and said along the lines of " Oh I don't know if I can sit at the same table as you if your reading that Red Rag "

So I said " how about we go back to page one and we look through the pages for red bias then ? " So we did, he was surprised to find that he could not argue with any of the news stories in the first 20 pages and then said he was surprised by the non partisan reporting. So, don't let your pre judgement get in the way, oh, and funnily enough, that was the day The Gruaniad gave an op-ed page and a half to Boris Johnson.

The Observer (Sunday Guardian) yesterday gave a page to Theresa May.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Agree the Guardian is just the extreme lefty’s version of the daily mail . Hugely prejudiced newspaper.

I really don't understand how people think the Guardian is as guessed as the Daily Mail. Have you ever read it?

And yes, I have read the Daily Mail....... and the Express. Both laughable in their prejudices.

 

[Peteinblack]

I was apprehensive, but I actually like it.

It's a lot easier to read on the train now, whereas with the previous format, whoever was sat next to me risked an accidental smack in the face when I tried opening it out or folding back a page; I was wrestling with the pages as much as reading them!

I'm also hoping that people who were previously intimidated by the idea of reading a 'poncey' broadsheet might be tempted to buy it now - an upmarket tabloid

 

[Hastings gull]

Cobblers. It doesn't make up stufflikethe Daily Mail does.

How can you possibly be in a position to make such a sweeping judgement? You could not possibly know if that were true. You might want to believe that, but that alone does not make it fact.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Preferred format

 

[Gwylan]

How can you possibly be in a position to make such a sweeping judgement? You could not possibly know if that were true. You might want to believe that, but that alone does not make it fact.

Er ...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...p-accepts-damages-and-apology-from-daily-mail

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/woman...er-mail-stories-alleging-inheritance-scandal/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27312080

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#cite_note-126

Don't forget that Wikipedia does not accept Daily Mail articles as news stories as they're not considered accurate enough. That's not the case with the Guardian, Times, FT or Telegraph

 

[catfish]

Its the lefts version of the Daily Mail, so not really fit for purpose in any shape it comes in.

No it's not. It treats people of all political persuasion as intelligent beings unlike the Mail which assumes all its readers are morons.

 

[Hastings gull]

Er ...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...p-accepts-damages-and-apology-from-daily-mail

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/woman...er-mail-stories-alleging-inheritance-scandal/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27312080

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#cite_note-126

Don't forget that Wikipedia does not accept Daily Mail articles as news stories as they're not considered accurate enough. That's not the case with the Guardian, Times, FT or Telegraph

My friend, I made no comment about the DM and what you are quoting, is, I am sure, correct. That is not the issue here. The poster claimed that the Guardian would never make anything up, and quite evidently, that is a very sweeping statement, which could not possibly be proven. That is what i reacted to. No more, no less.