Green Party Hypocrisy Unbelievable

[Pavilionaire]

Why didn't he just travel with Caroline Lucas on her train?

 

[Simster]

I don't want to put words in [MENTION=177]Brovion[/MENTION] 's mouth but the point is that we should all cut unnecessary emissions. He could and should have taken the train .... like Caroline Lucas did. Nobody is going to be perfect but those preaching to us should at least practise what they preach when they have the opportunity.

This is very true. The problem for vulnerable, principled parties is that the tiniest transgression is magnified 100 times. This is case in point. He took a plane - that's poor judgement. But really, is it anything more than that?

But maybe I'd find it a whole lot easier to take this Green Party story more seriously if it hadn't come from a died in the wool Tory. As it is, this relatively trivial issue was highlighted by Chicken Run, an apologist for undoubtedly the most corrupt, inept, incompetent, divisive government in living memory. Today we hear another repugnant Tory MP story - Geoffrey Cox this time. Another story where words really do fail most of us.

I'd say it's a bit hypocritical anyone who has backed this crap government whinging about a lack of lack of judgement, especially something as trivial as this.

 

[Chicken Run]

Bringing this thread back on topic

Labour councillor Daniel Yates labelled him as an "embarrassment to the city" while calling for his resignation.

Writing on Twitter, Cllr Yates said "I hope he will consider his position while contemplating his air miles".


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[BadFish]

Bringing this thread back on topic

Labour councillor Daniel Yates labelled him as an "embarrassment to the city" while calling for his resignation.

Writing on Twitter, Cllr Yates said "I hope he will consider his position while contemplating his air miles".


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Bit hysterical isn't it?

 

[Chicken Run]

Bit hysterical isn't it?

What the bit about him being “an embarrassment to the city” ?


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[Thunder Bolt]

Bringing this thread back on topic

Labour councillor Daniel Yates labelled him as an "embarrassment to the city" while calling for his resignation.

Writing on Twitter, Cllr Yates said "I hope he will consider his position while contemplating his air miles".


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He's considered it, and apologised. Matter over.

 

[The Clamp]

More whataboutary, try and debate like a grown up Nibble, no need to start slinging abuse otherwise you’ll drag the thread into your domain [emoji106]


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You put the subject up for debate. What is it you say? “own it”. That’s it. No need to be a snowflake, did you want debate or an echo chamber? It’s the cut and thrust of the Big Board, darling.

 

[BLOCK F]

Who’d be a politician or indeed a public figure in this day and age?
You’d have to be mad.

 

[BadFish]

What the bit about him being “an embarrassment to the city” ?


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Yeah, and now you come to mention it . . . Calling for his resignation. The Argus article. This thread.

The whole shooting match.

 

[Chicken Run]

He's considered it, and apologised. Matter over.

The ‘Matter’ has only just begun [emoji106]


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[The Clamp]

Bringing this thread back on topic

Labour councillor Daniel Yates labelled him as an "embarrassment to the city" while calling for his resignation.

Writing on Twitter, Cllr Yates said "I hope he will consider his position while contemplating his air miles".


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Bit of an overreaction from Yates there. Smacks of deliberate outrage.

 

[Chicken Run]

You put the subject up for debate. What is it you say? “own it”. That’s it. No need to be a snowflake, did you want debate or an echo chamber? It’s the cut and thrust of the Big Board, darling.

I know you security types like to pursue dominance but do try and stay on topic Nibble, there’s a good boy[emoji106]


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[The Clamp]

The ‘Matter’ has only just begun [emoji106]


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I seriously doubt many people would have known about the “matter” until you posted this thread. Even less care about this total non-story.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

Did something "wrong" owned up to our and apologised straight away. What a great example, if only more politicians could do this

…. But will he still claim expenses for it?

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Matter over.

According to who?

Not the Labour Party by the looks of things.

 

[The Clamp]

What has he done that’s illegal? He flew there. So did nearly every politician that attended. He was a bit daft but anyone trying to make a big deal out of this is focussing their outrage at the wrong party

He owned the backlash, apologised and has moved on. So should everyone else.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Whilst I tend to agree with you surely by making all of the above expensive creates an even bigger divide between rich and poor?

I’d like to see 1 registered car per household introduced as an example?

Flying, not sure what to do about that [emoji1745]

Meat, again very difficult [emoji1745]

I'm not sure it is actually that difficult. We realised plastic shopping bags were creating a big issue, so adding a 5p bag tax transformed habits overnight. We tax alcohol, fuel, emissions, tobacco, sugar, flying is already taxed - no reason you cannot increase these or add a meat tax if as a society for the benefit of all we have to reduce our consumption. These are the hard decisions.

If you're worried about the divide between rich and poor, then surely you must also believe there should be more higher taxation for wealth to ensure some things can be kept affordable for the poor? I didn't really take you for a socialist, but there you go.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Got caught? Did some intrepid journalist follow him to the airport and surreptitiously take photos of him for proof?



Until such time as plane travel is banned, he's done nothing wrong.

I don't normally disagree with you about anything. However, on this occasion....

First, if he did nothing wrong why has he apologised? At very best this change of heart is a lack of fortitude and evinces a level of self-doubt that bodes ill for any leadership aspirations (and I mean leading a small subject-specific team in opposition, not personally running the country).

Second, it is also perfectly legal to dress up as a foxhunter every weekend, ride to hounds after a dragged lure and, if a fox is encountered, invite a dog to chase it out of it's hole and shoot it, and if the fox is accidentally torn to shreds by the dogs then so be it. Perfectly legal. But you wouldn't expect the chairman of the league against cruel sports to be high on that saddle each weekend. Nor a green MP.

So, yes, it was all perfectly legal but it makes him look a fool.

 

[Swansman]

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I think "whataboutery" implies that there was some kind of subject to begin with. "Someone takes a flight somewhere" arguably doesnt count in that category.

 

[Chicken Run]

Got caught? Did some intrepid journalist follow him to the airport and surreptitiously take photos of him for proof?



Until such time as plane travel is banned, he's done nothing wrong.

I don't normally disagree with you about anything. However, on this occasion....

First, if he did nothing wrong why has he apologised? At very best this change of heart is a lack of fortitude and evinces a level of self-doubt that bodes ill for any leadership aspirations (and I mean leading a small subject-specific team in opposition, not personally running the country).

Second, it is also perfectly legal to dress up as a foxhunter every weekend, ride to hounds after a dragged lure and, if a fox is encountered, invite a dog to chase it out of it's hole and shoot it, and if the fox is accidentally torn to shreds by the dogs then so be it. Perfectly legal. But you wouldn't expect the chairman of the league against cruel sports to be high on that saddle each weekend. Nor a green MP.

So, yes, it was all perfectly legal but it makes him look a fool.

If he’s not done anything wrong then I assume he’ll catch the plane back…….

“I will be taking my return journey on train. Again, I apologise unreservedly.”


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