[Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

[Stat Brother]

I went to Utrecht in November. Cars are still allowed everywhere except the main Centre of town similar to Brighton. There are bicycle's everywhere but its totally flat for miles. The trams were only Central. Utrecht Central is also a lot smaller than Brighton. I think the bus service is actually better here in Brighton.
Brighton Centre is pretty much car free except for buses/taxis. If we were to go like Utrecht then we would need to stop buses/taxis from North Street and Western Road.

Are you sure "Brighton centre is pretty much car free"

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

will all the traffic cops get the sack ?.

I’m sure there will still be plenty of angry middle-aged lazy male motorists to arrest and jail.

 

[Chicken Run]

Different thread, different topic. Very odd thing to bring up here. Strange boy.

Usual Walter Mitty behaviour from you [emoji23]

 

[Guinness Boy]

This is part of Mouldy Boots and Chicken Run’s logic that unless you refrain from all air travel, you’re ‘virtue signalling’ if you talk about the environment.

So basically you cannot support making part of the centre of Brighton car free and go on holiday.

It’s the ultimate in moronic whataboutery. It’s almost like people who want clean air to breathe need to be painted as radical extremists.


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[Worried Man Blues]

So massive park and rides, how far outside the town and where, with electric buses, will need some planning by 2023

 

[The Clamp]

Usual Walter Mitty behaviour from you [emoji23]

I’m sorry? You have utterly lost me here.

 

[Triggaaar]

City is about having fun. Has been since the Prince Regent.

And nothing screams fun like rules and regulations!

I don't mind there being sections that are traffic free, but would hope there's still reasonable disabled access.

 

[Dave the OAP]

It’s only private cars......wouldn’t affect taxis (they’ll love it, no traffic and much more business)

If they are making busses electric, which is the growth of the blue busses around town, then I would be even more radical and make it a requirement that only electric zero emissions taxis be allowed south of the station!

And yes, why not look at a tram system from Brighton station, down to the seafront, turning around by the i360 and back up . Have a line down queens road turning left at the clock tower and down to the stiene (so) and also turning right along western road.

Yes it is pie in the sky as we don’t have the money, but visiting overseas cities you can see how tram systems are really handy as a mass population movement system.

I think most people apart from the usual suspects on here, do realise that we have to do something about the levels of carbon pollution and to be honest most of us on here will be dead a long time before that is seriously attacked. This is a problem that our children and grandchildren will inherit and at least we should start planning for it....

 

[Stat Brother]

I'm fed up with all this ninnying around so this is what's gonna happen:-

01.01.21

- Palace Pier to Montpelier Rd vehicle free except buses.
- Likewise Monty to Western, Western to North Street.
- Queens Road also buses only.
- The Lanes and North Laine car free between 8am and 6pm.
- The now obsolete NCP car park on the left of Queens Road to be made 'residents only'.

01.01.22
- Trolley bus/tram/monorail/waterslide loop build is complete.
- Buses removed from the city.

01.01.23
- The process begins again pushing up to Seven Dials.

Only this time everybody will be desperate for it to happen sooner because the f**kin idiots who currently can't look beyond the end of their noses will finally see the benefit.




I HAVE SPOKEN - MAKE IT SO.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

And nothing screams fun like rules and regulations!

I don't mind there being sections that are traffic free, but would hope there's still reasonable disabled access.

It would be illegal if there wasn't

 

[The Clamp]

And nothing screams fun like rules and regulations!

I don't mind there being sections that are traffic free, but would hope there's still reasonable disabled access.

I can’t imagine they are going to overlook the disabled access.

Folks shouldn’t worry, they are not going to declare this overnight. There will be a process.

 

[Grombleton]

It’s the ultimate in moronic whataboutery. It’s almost like people who want clean air to breathe need to be painted as radical extremists.


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I think it runs deeper than that. Maybe they had a relative that ran off with a Boeing 747 and they've not got over it yet.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

The resident is Nigel Furness. A resident and perpetual UKIP loser. Still, he got 177 votes at the election.

You need to up your game to be taken seriously by anyone.

Do you think I'm taking you seriously then
Regards
DF

 

[Deleted member 2719]

I will definitely stop flying into Brighton.

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I am sure you were just jesting.

But ironically, some of the numpties will believe they have done there bit by stopping cars going into Brighton centre, but still, emit carbon without blinking by the ton, while flying out several times a year.

 

[The Clamp]

I am sure you were just jesting.

But ironically, some of the numpties will believe they have done there bit by stopping cars going into Brighton centre, but still, emit carbon without blinking by the ton, while flying out several times a year.

Probably best to just do nothing.



It’s “their”.

 

[BadFish]

I am sure you were just jesting.

But ironically, some of the numpties will believe they have done there bit by stopping cars going into Brighton centre, but still, emit carbon without blinking by the ton, while flying out several times a year.

If anyone did think that I would agree that they are numpties. However I have enough faith in people tp believe that such numpties are few and far between.

 

[A1X]

For a small city centre like Brighton has this absolutely 100% makes sense.

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

I am sure you were just jesting.

But ironically, some of the numpties will believe they have done there bit by stopping cars going into Brighton centre, but still, emit carbon without blinking by the ton, while flying out several times a year.

Have you thought that perhaps people might be in favour because Brighton would actually be a more pleasant place to be if the centre was pedestrianised? As opposed to just for Green reasons?

If you've ever been to Naples there is a perfect example there - the 2km promenade along the seafront that used to be a 6 lane road. You can read about it here

 

[Bold Seagull]

I am sure you were just jesting.

But ironically, some of the numpties will believe they have done there bit by stopping cars going into Brighton centre, but still, emit carbon without blinking by the ton, while flying out several times a year.

I don't disagree with your overall sentiment that everyone needs to do their bit both for their own footprint, and their desire for larger politically led changes.

However, improving Brighton city centre is worth more than just the consideration of emissions. It will make it a more desirable place to visit, enable easier access improving wheelchair/pushchair accessibility. It will add the necessary improvements to the retail experience to keep it relevant against online competition.

The death of the high street will happen if the high street doesn't change and evolve. The facts and figures are there from European cities that have done the same thing and their economic data before and after.

 

[CheeseRolls]

I am sure you were just jesting.

But ironically, some of the numpties will believe they have done there bit by stopping cars going into Brighton centre, but still, emit carbon without blinking by the ton, while flying out several times a year.

Sneering cynicism in itself does not add to carbon emissions, so you can give yourself a pat on the back for that one.

However people deserve some credit for being open to change. Your stance that anyone concerned about climate change should disavow themselves of all their worldly goods and live a life of meditation is at odds with your view that they would then be workshy spongers. Why do you feel the need to set the bar impossibly high for everyone else?

We are on a journey and it will be easier if people are open to change. No one can do everything in one giant step, so it needs to be a series of incremental changes.