[Football] Government plans to lift football standing ban

[dazzer6666]

You are not allowed to stand . I’ve not seen anyone standing where I sit and if they did , they would be reported to a steward and no doubt given a warning and chucked out if they continued.

There is seating for a reason , it’s far safer . Period .

Assume you don’t go to away games much ?

 

[Eeyore]

It's hard to keep up.

I don't know if the government are being tub-thumping, crowd pleasing, flag waving men of the people to cover up a disgusting shameful sociopathic cock up they've just made, are currently making, or one they know is just around the corner.

Yes, it is an idea that makes much sense. My problem is that every time I see something like that from this government I wonder if it's a scrap for the peasants that is cover for something more malignant.

 

[Justice]

You are not allowed to stand . I’ve not seen anyone standing where I sit and if they did , they would be reported to a steward and no doubt given a warning and chucked out if they continued.

There is seating for a reason , it’s far safer . Period .

Wow sound like fun where you sit

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Sorry, but where are these examples of injuries? If there were, the clubs would have had to enforce sitting.

https://assets.publishing.service.g...5330/Standing_at_Football_final_report_V2.pdf

Injuries sustained from standing in seated areas
Of 1,550 injuries recorded by Premier League clubs during the 2017/18 season,29 none
were attributed to persistent standing and 84% were reported as having no link
whatsoever to standing.30 Statistical analysis of SGSA injury data across all four
leagues suggests a higher incidence of injuries at grounds with terracing than those
without,31 but this does not indicate causation as data does not show where exactly an
injury occurred. Further, any relationship between injuries and grounds with terracing
is not relevant to modern standing accommodation such as rail seating. It is
acknowledged by the SGSA that historical data collected on injuries to spectators at
football matches lacks the consistency and detail required to attribute injuries directly
to persistent standing.32 Injury data examined for this review33 supports this lack of
consistency.
It has been suggested in research and briefings that fans can sustain injuries from
tripping and falling over the backs of seats, particularly during goal celebrations.34 The
only study in this review that investigated this found that 11.5% of 1,072 football fans
completing an online survey into standing at football reported that they had suffered
some form of injury when standing in a seated area, including injuries to lower legs,
shins and ankles when celebrating a goal.35 One complaint handled by the
Independent Football Ombudsman in 2018 involved an injury to one supporter
sustained when others toppled into her from the row behind during a goal
celebration.36 It was suggested by stakeholders that minor injuries resulting from
standing typically go unrecorded as they would be unlikely to be reported by fans.
Current data and research into standing in seating areas is limited and so the extent to
which standing in seated areas, persistent or at times of excitement, might cause
injuries is difficult to assess. Given that research suggests standing at times of
excitement poses a higher risk of injury than standing during normal play,37 it is even
more challenging to relate this to persistent standing. At one club where persistent
standing is managed in a particular way (see below), there have been no reports of
injuries received through bumps and scrapes, though it is acknowledged that minor
injuries tend to go unreported.38 This review did not identify any evidence which
examined whether injuries due to standing in seating areas at times of excitement are
more or less likely to occur if the supporter is already (persistently) standing.

Pretty sure i've read on NSC too about injuries to people in the stands caused by seats (although it was bcak when the stadium was newer)

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

You are not allowed to stand . I’ve not seen anyone standing where I sit and if they did , they would be reported to a steward and no doubt given a warning and chucked out if they continued.

There is seating for a reason , it’s far safer . Period .

Is this a blanket approach or is discretion given for corners etc?

 

[e77]

Can only speak for the Amex - I know the away end at the new Tottenham ground is designed for future safe standing - but the stadium was designed for all seating and people selected their seats assuming everyone was sitting. I would assume it will only be the lower stands that would ever be considered for it but even so it would cost the club money to convert and some people would need moving from their seats.

If it does happen I suggest the people in favour of it should be paying for the work on the ground that will need to take place.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

I'd be disappointed if that wasn't an NSC response. I don't think they like us very much as it's certainly done deliberately. We have done musical seats in the past to get round it but someone always ends up peering round the giant.

There really are some dickheads supporting our team who just enjoy ruining people’s enjoyment.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

You don't think a government would release info about a popular policy to detract from a poor one?

I think that every time the Government releases information about a popular policy certain people immediately make that accusation.

 

[Bodian]

If we had railed seating/standing, my shins would not be so scraped the day after. So, it's a yes from me.

 

[drew]

https://assets.publishing.service.g...5330/Standing_at_Football_final_report_V2.pdf



Pretty sure i've read on NSC too about injuries to people in the stands caused by seats (although it was bcak when the stadium was newer)

So the report actually states that none of the 1550 injuries sustained in that season were attributed to persistent standing. It says people suggest there may be injuries but that's not evidence. Without reading the report, does it document any injuries sustained at grounds, such as Dortmund's, in areas that have safe standing, ie providing a comparison?

 

[Wozza]

Breaking news

Clubs in the top two tiers of English football will be able to offer licensed standing areas at their grounds from January 1, 2022, if they have been approved as part of an ‘early adopter’ programme, the Sports Grounds Safety Authority has announced

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Breaking news

Clubs in the top two tiers of English football will be able to offer licensed standing areas at their grounds from January 1, 2022, if they have been approved as part of an ‘early adopter’ programme, the Sports Grounds Safety Authority has announced

But we won't be one of them because no Brighton fan actually wants it