Gove OUT in cabinet reshuffle

[jgmcdee]

But results are up are they not.

Any particular results?

Gove is no better or worse than other education ministers.

He's one of the most ideologically driven education ministers, or indeed minister of any sort, I have seen in a long time. Ignorance of the realities of education, blanket statements about the entire teaching profession, denying reductions in money available to schools, proclaiming the importance of a standard curriculum whilst allowing free schools to employ unqualified staff to teach whatever they feel like, continual alteration of OFSTED targets, pitting teachers against one another by using rebased averages every year rather than a set level of performance... there are more but that's a flavour for your.

He is a tory, so must be wrong.

Not automatically, although without any other information it would be a fair bet

If the teachers unions are not fighting something then they will cease to exist.

I don't care about unions but I do care about the education of children in this country, and as such I know which side I'm on.

 

[Mowgli37]

But results are up are they not. Or is this just figure massaging. Gove is no better or worse than other education ministers. He is a tory, so must be wrong. If the teachers unions are not fighting something then they will cease to exist.

1) Exam boards chop and change grade boundaries all the time to make results look as good as possible, so yes, I believe it is "figure massaging".

2) "He is a tory, so must be wrong", for someone who has displayed such narrow-minded views to accuse others of prejudice comes across as a bit rich.

3) What, so you think teachers enjoy protesting?

 

[East Preston Gull]

Gove has gone so now it will all be ok. It has been nice but I have to go and start my evening job. It's a tough graft out in the real world. Keep fighting the power and may your 6 week holiday be sunny.....I believe the children are the future teach them well.

 

[jgmcdee]

Gove has gone so now it will all be ok. It has been nice but I have to go and start my evening job. It's a tough graft out in the real world. Keep fighting the power and may your 6 week holiday be sunny.....I believe the children are the future teach them well.

You really don't need to go to your evening class in condescension, you have it down pat.

 

[Mowgli37]

Gove has gone so now it will all be ok. It has been nice but I have to go and start my evening job. It's a tough graft out in the real world. Keep fighting the power and may your 6 week holiday be sunny.....I believe the children are the future teach them well.

Are you saying that teachers don't live in the real world and don't graft like everyone else?

 

[Grombleton]

What does Uncle C do for a job? Or does he not have one in case he becomes a 'pawn' of the establishment and instead stays at home bashing one out all day.

For the record, i'm not a teacher, nor am I close to any teachers but I can fully understand what a total shitstorm his time in office caused.

 

[The Large One]

Gove has gone so now it will all be ok. It has been nice but I have to go and start my evening job. It's a tough graft out in the real world. Keep fighting the power and may your 6 week holiday be sunny.....I believe the children are the future teach them well.

When I said you don't know what you're on about, it wasn't an open invitation for you to carry on proving it.

 

[East Preston Gull]

When I said you don't know what you're on about, it wasn't an open invitation for you to carry on proving it.

Are you the kid who has to get the last word in..this could be a long night then.

 

[Rich Suvner]

Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic springs to mind

I'm not convinced the next election is a Labour shoe-in, as many seem to think.

Ed Milliband simply isn't electable in my opinion and Labour have yet to distance themselves from their reputation as irresponsible with public money (whether you agree with it or not). Is Ed the 21st century Kinnock? - ie likely to preside over an election defeat to a generally unpopular Tory party.

 

[Ernest]

I'm not convinced the next election is a Labour shoe-in, as many seem to think.

Ed Milliband simply isn't electable in my opinion and Labour have yet to distance themselves from their reputation as irresponsible with public money (whether you agree with it or not). Is Ed the 21st century Kinnock? - ie likely to preside over an election defeat to a generally unpopular Tory party.

I wouldn't put my house on a Labour majority but the Tories didn't win the last election so I see no way they can win the next one

 

[Barrel of Fun]

My school was in mourning today. We've lost a giant of education. Silly move, Dave.

 

[pipkin112]

My school was in mourning today. We've lost a giant of education. Silly move, Dave.

Do I detect a hint of sarcasm?

 

[El Presidente]

I have to go and start my evening job. It's a tough graft out in the real world.

Can you make sure you deliver my pepperoni cheese crust on time tonight please x

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I wouldn't put my house on a Labour majority but the Tories didn't win the last election so I see no way they can win the next one

This. They nasty party have lost votes, not gained them. No chance they will be in power next year.

 

[El Presidente]

This. They nasty party have lost votes, not gained them. No chance they will be in power next year.

I'm not convinced. Could be another makeshift, of which hue is uncertain.

 

[East Preston Gull]

Can you make sure you deliver my pepperoni cheese crust on time tonight please x

Would you like extra tofu on the left side only sir.

 

[El Presidente]

Would you like extra tofu on the left side only sir.

Make sure you're wearing clogs made from sustainable forests when delivering please

 

[Ernest]

I'm not convinced. Could be another makeshift, of which hue is uncertain.

Pinkish

 

[East Preston Gull]

Make sure you're wearing clogs made from sustainable forests when delivering please

[emoji3]

 

[soistes]

I'm not convinced the next election is a Labour shoe-in, as many seem to .

It's shoo-in by the way. Nothing to do with footwear at all.