GOUT!

[Wise Nail]

Hi,

I've suffered from Gout for a number of years, it's basically too much Uric acid within the blood, and modern research suggests it is more a hereditary thing, with diet only being about 1% of the issue. I tend to get mine in my big toe, and have learnt to pick up on warning signs / sensations over the year. I've also realised that mine was more linked to exercise than diet. The trick is to try to get on top of it before it becomes a full blown episode, as it's easier to deal with when it's developing rather than when it's happened.

These things work for me:

1. At least six glasses of water when I feel it coming on. Gout if more likely when dehydrated, so always make an effort to drink plenty of water.

2. I use various capsules found on Amazon to keep my Uric acid levels down. If I feel an attack coming on then I load up on these capsules with a bigger dose than normal. Specifically these are 1. Uriprinol, cost about £10 for 60. 2. Cherry capsules, black cherrys tend to bring down Uric acid. 3. Celery capsules, again these are good for Gout.

3. I have a repeat prescription for Naproxen with my GP. You'll need a lot of these if you have a full blown attack, but normally if I catch it early and use 1 and 2 above, I only need one or two Naproxen.

The above has stopped me having a full blown Gout attack for over five years. I prefer the natural remedies over medication where possible. It costs me a small amount of money per month or so, but is better than the alternative.

Hope that helps

 

[HangletonGull]

Hi,

I've suffered from Gout for a number of years, it's basically too much Uric acid within the blood, and modern research suggests it is more a hereditary thing, with diet only being about 1% of the issue. I tend to get mine in my big toe, and have learnt to pick up on warning signs / sensations over the year. I've also realised that mine was more linked to exercise than diet. The trick is to try to get on top of it before it becomes a full blown episode, as it's easier to deal with when it's developing rather than when it's happened.

These things work for me:

1. At least six glasses of water when I feel it coming on. Gout if more likely when dehydrated, so always make an effort to drink plenty of water.

2. I use various capsules found on Amazon to keep my Uric acid levels down. If I feel an attack coming on then I load up on these capsules with a bigger dose than normal. Specifically these are 1. Uriprinol, cost about £10 for 60. 2. Cherry capsules, black cherrys tend to bring down Uric acid. 3. Celery capsules, again these are good for Gout.

3. I have a repeat prescription for Naproxen with my GP. You'll need a lot of these if you have a full blown attack, but normally if I catch it early and use 1 and 2 above, I only need one or two Naproxen.

The above has stopped me having a full blown Gout attack for over five years. I prefer the natural remedies over medication where possible. It costs me a small amount of money per month or so, but is better than the alternative.

Hope that helps

Thanks

 

[North of Robertsbridge]

modern research suggests it is more a hereditary thing, with diet only being about 1% of the issue

I wouldn’t want to be argumentative, but do you have links to research on those two claims? I recently retired from a senior position with the world’s largest medical publisher and have had the opportunity to read large amounts of research on the subject (I’m on the research side, not clinical)

 

[albionite]

Short term relief when you have a flare up, grate ginger put it around toe joint or wherever it is and wrap in clingfilm, for 6-12 hours. Remarkable how well that works.

 

[Wise Nail]

I wouldn’t want to be argumentative, but do you have links to research on those two claims? I recently retired from a senior position with the world’s largest medical publisher and have had the opportunity to read large amounts of research on the subject (I’m on the research side, not clinical)

Google "Gout Genetics not diet" and you will find info on a New Zealand study from 2018. I also read a similar article in the BMJ some time ago. I'm not a medical person, so I'm not claiming to have a medical opinion, it's just what I've read. Personally I've always eaten and drunk whatever I want without issue, and as mentioned in my reply above, it was exercise and impact on my big toe joint that did / does bring on attacks of Gout, somewhat lessened by better footwear and innersoles which correct my high arches.

Here is the BMJ link: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.k3951

 

[The Wookiee]

3. I have a repeat prescription for Naproxen with my GP. You'll need a lot of these if you have a full blown attack, but normally if I catch it early and use 1 and 2 above, I only need one or two Naproxen.

A friend of mine suffers badly from gout and when he runs out of Naproxen he gets his wife to pop into boots and get a box of these

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Naproxen without the need of a prescription

 

[North of Robertsbridge]

Er - that’s a blog article, not peer-reviewed scientific research. Hereditary factors play into pretty much any disease. Having said that, it’s a helpful article, just not exactly the consensus of research

 

[Wise Nail]

Er - that’s a blog article, not peer-reviewed scientific research. Hereditary factors play into pretty much any disease. Having said that, it’s a helpful article, just not exactly the consensus of research

There's a link to the research referenced by the BMJ. Not to be argumentative back, but I was only trying to help the initial poster with my own findings of how to deal with Gout over the years. If you prefer to believe that Gout if controlled by dietary options then fill you boots.

 

[North of Robertsbridge]

Sorry, missed that link. I would suggest that there is solid literature to the effect that diet can play an important role. However, there is a lack of consensus on exactly what diet

 

[heathgate]

Allopurinol

 

[Spiros]

Hi,

I've suffered from Gout for a number of years, it's basically too much Uric acid within the blood, and modern research suggests it is more a hereditary thing, with diet only being about 1% of the issue. I tend to get mine in my big toe, and have learnt to pick up on warning signs / sensations over the year. I've also realised that mine was more linked to exercise than diet. The trick is to try to get on top of it before it becomes a full blown episode, as it's easier to deal with when it's developing rather than when it's happened.

These things work for me:

1. At least six glasses of water when I feel it coming on. Gout if more likely when dehydrated, so always make an effort to drink plenty of water.

2. I use various capsules found on Amazon to keep my Uric acid levels down. If I feel an attack coming on then I load up on these capsules with a bigger dose than normal. Specifically these are 1. Uriprinol, cost about £10 for 60. 2. Cherry capsules, black cherrys tend to bring down Uric acid. 3. Celery capsules, again these are good for Gout.

3. I have a repeat prescription for Naproxen with my GP. You'll need a lot of these if you have a full blown attack, but normally if I catch it early and use 1 and 2 above, I only need one or two Naproxen.

The above has stopped me having a full blown Gout attack for over five years. I prefer the natural remedies over medication where possible. It costs me a small amount of money per month or so, but is better than the alternative.

Hope that helps

Thanks for that, like you I’ve always tried to avoid actual prescription drugs when gout has reared its ugly head. Definitely don’t want to end up on allopurinol for ever.

I only get the very occasional attack but as well as cherry juice/cherries and hydration I also find it useful to have a big dose of vitamin C.

 

[Wise Nail]

Thanks for that, like you I’ve always tried to avoid actual prescription drugs when gout has reared its ugly head. Definitely don’t want to end up on allopurinol for ever.

I only get the very occasional attack but as well as cherry juice/cherries and hydration I also find it useful to have a big dose of vitamin C.

I'd recommend Uriprinol, it's a combination of Vitamin C, Montmorency Cherry, Celery Seed, Turmeric and Banaba Leaf. Amazon currently selling 60 capsules for £13. You can take two per day, but I tend to take one per day and go up to two if I feel Gout coming on. I'd much rather take these than Allopurinol if possible. They've worked very well for me over the past five years.

 

[Silverhatch]

Thanks for that, like you I’ve always tried to avoid actual prescription drugs when gout has reared its ugly head. Definitely don’t want to end up on allopurinol for ever.

I only get the very occasional attack but as well as cherry juice/cherries and hydration I also find it useful to have a big dose of vitamin C.

This is a genuine question with no edge… What is wrong with taking gout medication (perhaps for life) that stops flares? I’ve been on Allopurinol for several years and (touch wood) haven’t had an attack after 15 years of undiagnosed misery. My consultant was clear and adamant that my previously undiagnosed gout was nothing to do with lifestyle or diet and that I was one of the unlucky few that could not process/metabolise uric acid and the choice was stark i.e. no drugs = no relief.

 

[Spiros]

This is a genuine question with no edge… What is wrong with taking gout medication (perhaps for life) that stops flares? I’ve been on Allopurinol for several years and (touch wood) haven’t had an attack after 15 years of undiagnosed misery. My consultant was clear and adamant that my gout was nothing to do with lifestyle or diet and that I was one of the unlucky few that could not process/metabolise uric acid and the choice was stark i.e. no drugs = no relief.

Probably nothing wrong with it, just I would rather not be on long term prescription drugs if I can avoid it. I also understand and sympathise if this is your only option, it’s just one I’d rather not take if there’s a better alternative

 

[Anger]

Increase your cherry intake.

Whilst you could do this by looking at the ‘Bournemouth new club badge’ thread, the better recognised gout treatment is to drink concentrated cherry juice.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I've merged the threads so there's one source of information.

Both my Grandad and Dad had this. Up to now, despite loving a drink, beef, mushrooms, cheese and seafood I've been ok, but it's surely in the post. @HangletonGull good luck buddy, there's loads of good info in this merged thread.

 

[Silverhatch]

I've merged the threads so there's one source of information.

Both my Grandad and Dad had this. Up to now, despite loving a drink, beef, mushrooms, cheese and seafood I've been ok, but it's surely in the post. @HangletonGull good luck buddy, there's loads of good info in this merged thread.

Get a blood test in Brighton to check your Uric Acid. Any result near or over 0.42 will mean you are unable to process uric acid and you will be crystal forming!!

 

[Guinness Boy]

Get a blood test in Brighton to check your Uric Acid. Any result near or over 0.42 will mean you are unable to process uric acid and you will be crystal forming!!

Thanks, good advice. I reckon my GP might do this as I have just hit the magic over 50.

 

[Silverhatch]

Thanks, good advice. I reckon my GP might do this as I have just hit the magic over 50.

If you have history of gout in your family - bloody insist on it. My gout presented in the middle of my foot and stumped the entire Brighton medical community for 15 years until I referred my self to Kelsey Jordan at the Montifiore. She’s a renowned gout specialist and proved to me that I had gout through a scan she developed. I take the medication. The gout is controlled via medication and bi-annual blood tests.

 

[Guinness Boy]

If you have history of gout in your family - bloody insist on it. My gout presented in the middle of my foot and stumped the entire Brighton medical community for 15 years until I referred my self to Kelsey Jordan at the Montifiore. She’s a renowned gout specialist and proved to me that I had gout through a scan she developed. I take the medication. The gout is controlled via medication and bi-annual blood tests.

Thanks again. Looks like definitely worth doing.

A few years ago when I was running 30-40 miles a week I was put out for three weeks by a mysterious injury in my foot which I put down to over doing it. Although I’d cut down the booze I’d upped the protein. Never considered gout but would be good to rule it in / out.