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[Albion] Good morning keep the faith



Shuggie

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Sep 19, 2003
685
East Sussex coast
Keep the faith? Faith in what?
Yes of course we support the Albion, it’s in our blood, but faith the continued success of the club at the levels we have achieved?
That is blind faith, mere credulity.

Hardly blind faith now, is it? From the moment TB became involved, everything has been done to improve over the long-run. If you want empirical evidence, we have steadily risen to the top 25 of 538’s power index (worth investigating if you’re unfamiliar with it https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/global-club-rankings/). That’s little old Brighton and Hove Albion, not Leeds, Villa or Newcastle. He has always said he wants the club to handle staff changes smoothly, no matter how significant the role. Dan Ashworth is a shining example of succession planning in action. Or White, or Cucurella, or Bissouma or even Nathan Jones / Liam Rosenior.

I have confidence that all the work already done in preparation for this day will see us continue to progress. It’s only a bump in the road.

If nothing else, being optimistic is a lot less dispiriting. There’s still a not insignificant chance that GP will turn them down (immediate legend status) but, even if he goes, two long breaks for the new guy (or girl) to have almost the equivalent of a full preseason in before Boxing Day. So, yes, my conclusion based on the evidence of the last twenty years (rather than the last twenty hours) is that this would be a good time to trust the club.

Nil desperandum

:albion2:
 






dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
55,622
Burgess Hill
This has all far been too quick, clean and smooth. I’m already convinced Tony knew this was coming way before Tuchel was sacked…….given the amount of business we’ve been doing with Chelsea wouldn’t be a surprise to find out that the owners had been speaking.
 


biffo

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Feb 17, 2021
5
Trying to put myself in Potters position over this and I feel the decision will come down to his impression of the Chelsea leadership, without question he and the Brighton leadership have a strong and effective working relationship, if he feels he cant have that with the Chelsea leadership he needs to walk away.

For every Pro I can see in him joining Chelsea here is a valid and strong counter argument , for example ,

If he feels Chelsea offers CL football and a top 6 option, well Brighton are on a trajectory which brings this anyway , may not be a while but he and the team have proved they can truly compete with the top 6 gang so its not a strong reason .
Chelsea is bigger and has more facilities to support his plans , Brighton may not get to the commercial size of a Chelsea but with the present leadership it will grow and it will do it in a way which is sustainable , whereas Chelsea is yet again another rich man indulgence and as soon as he bores of his new toy they will have a reckoning

and so on



In my view the pull to stay will be very strong indeed, Brighton to Potter is a project in progress and has not reached it full potential and that will bother him to walk away from the potential and also a project that will define him in the future.

My only real concern is if he truly believes the Chelsea job is the only time such an opportunity will come to him , but even then if he believes in his Brighton Project , all he has to do is keep it on track and progressing and there will be many opportunities in the future
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,277
Faversham
We're on the Titanic and just hit an iceberg, Yes, we may have the best people in charge, but we're still going to sink.

:cheery:

The Titanic didn't have the best people in charge. Its design guaranteed it would sink. The exact opposite of The Albion in fact.

Apart from the Iceberg.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,277
Faversham
Hardly blind faith now, is it? From the moment TB became involved, everything has been done to improve over the long-run. If you want empirical evidence, we have steadily risen to the top 25 of 538’s power index (worth investigating if you’re unfamiliar with it https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/global-club-rankings/). That’s little old Brighton and Hove Albion, not Leeds, Villa or Newcastle. He has always said he wants the club to handle staff changes smoothly, no matter how significant the role. Dan Ashworth is a shining example of succession planning in action. Or White, or Cucurella, or Bissouma or even Nathan Jones / Liam Rosenior.

I have confidence that all the work already done in preparation for this day will see us continue to progress. It’s only a bump in the road.

If nothing else, being optimistic is a lot less dispiriting. There’s still a not insignificant chance that GP will turn them down (immediate legend status) but, even if he goes, two long breaks for the new guy (or girl) to have almost the equivalent of a full preseason in before Boxing Day. So, yes, my conclusion based on the evidence of the last twenty years (rather than the last twenty hours) is that this would be a good time to trust the club.

Nil desperandum

:albion2:

This.

Hope you're well, mate. Been a long time :thumbsup:
 


raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
7,407
Wiltshire
I think those who were in the club - such as Bruno and Ben Roberts - when Potter arrived will also be staying when he goes. Billy, Björn and probably Kyle are all going however. Unless TB is playing a curveball and giving Billy the job.

That did cross my mind too
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,277
Faversham
Keep the faith? Faith in what?
Yes of course we support the Albion, it’s in our blood, but faith the continued success of the club at the levels we have achieved?
That is blind faith, mere credulity.

Micky Adams left some years ago, so that slogan has been retired, hasn't it?
 




Berty23

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Jun 26, 2012
3,663
I am feeling much better about it all today. It is like the stages of grief. I have accepted he is off and life goes on. I wonder if a team has ever been top of the premier league and managerless. This could realistically happen on Saturday.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
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Hurst Green
This has all far been too quick, clean and smooth. I’m already convinced Tony knew this was coming way before Tuchel was sacked…….given the amount of business we’ve been doing with Chelsea wouldn’t be a surprise to find out that the owners had been speaking.

I agree, it's been nagging me since the news broke. It was so quick and at no point has there been any indication that anyone from the club has spoken to Potter. Photo's being taken with the team (a complete sham) to hot footing it up to London, verbal agreement and final agreement today, yet no countenance from Brighton. All sounds like this was done sometime ago. If that's the case it just leaves a bad taste.
 


BLOCK F

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Feb 26, 2009
6,725
:cheery:

The Titanic didn't have the best people in charge. Its design guaranteed it would sink. The exact opposite of The Albion in fact.

Apart from the Iceberg.

Here at the Albion, we have watertight chambers everywhere and no inferior iron rivets and steel plate were involved in the building of the Amex.:lolol:
 




Worried Man Blues

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Feb 28, 2009
7,300
Swansea
I am surprised with the photo shoot Potter wasn't right at the side so he could be cut awf! Maybe he isn't going to Chelsea and just having a free dinner :rolleyes:
 




Javeaseagull

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Feb 22, 2014
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I agree, it's been nagging me since the news broke. It was so quick and at no point has there been any indication that anyone from the club has spoken to Potter. Photo's being taken with the team (a complete sham) to hot footing it up to London, verbal agreement and final agreement today, yet no countenance from Brighton. All sounds like this was done sometime ago. If that's the case it just leaves a bad taste.

It’s funny how two people can look at the same situation and have opposite views. You feel a bad taste while I think it smacks of ultra professionalism. Weird but very slick imho.
 




Mancgull

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Nov 28, 2011
5,562
Astley, Manchester
This has all far been too quick, clean and smooth. I’m already convinced Tony knew this was coming way before Tuchel was sacked…….given the amount of business we’ve been doing with Chelsea wouldn’t be a surprise to find out that the owners had been speaking.

Yes, sack Tuchel in the morning and then get Potter to them on the same day. All seems too quick. As someone else has stated on NSC there were rumours around the day before amongst Chelsea fans than Tuchel was being sacked and that Potter was front runner. Cucurella, Gilmour, Colwill deals and then this...hmm.
Hopefully we have already started the process of getting a replacement.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,399
Withdean area
This has all far been too quick, clean and smooth. I’m already convinced Tony knew this was coming way before Tuchel was sacked…….given the amount of business we’ve been doing with Chelsea wouldn’t be a surprise to find out that the owners had been speaking.

I agree, immediately giving Potter permission to speak to the Chavs, in a petty industry came across as unusually gentlemanly.
 




Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,370
Worthing
Sky news just had footage of Potter and Billy arriving at the Albion training ground.

Their take was to say goodbye
 




dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
55,622
Burgess Hill
I agree, it's been nagging me since the news broke. It was so quick and at no point has there been any indication that anyone from the club has spoken to Potter. Photo's being taken with the team (a complete sham) to hot footing it up to London, verbal agreement and final agreement today, yet no countenance from Brighton. All sounds like this was done sometime ago. If that's the case it just leaves a bad taste.

Actually doesn’t leave a bad taste for me if that’s how it happened because it sounds like Bloom was fully aware - it more smacks of two professional businessmen being pragmatic and open with each other. Boehly tells Bloom they have been tracking Potter, that they’re sacking Tuchel and will want to speak to him as soon as they have. Bloom says he doesn’t want to lose him but there’s a release clause so if that’s met then it would be wrong to stand in his way and Potter will then make his own decision on whether he moves.
 




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