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[Football] Good managers who seem to have reached their sell by date







Lenny Rider

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Sep 15, 2010
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Possibly a bit early for his demise but Chris Wilder used to be the bees knees


Strange one, he went for the Fulham job, had four references with his application, Fergie, Pep, Jose and Southgate and still didn’t get the job.

Going back a few years as well, in the summer of 1991, Barry Lloyd allegedly turned down job offers from both Chelsea and Southampton, electing to stay at the Albion, unfortunately by Dec 1993 he was effectively unemployable as a manager.
 


e77

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May 23, 2004
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Worthing
I think Alan Curbishley was a bit picky with his next job and the game moved on without him. Eddie Howe should take note.
 


A1X

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Sam Allardyce

You can’t argue that as a man who only ever got hired for one reason he was pretty bloody good at it until recently
 






Brownstuff

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Feb 21, 2009
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Hove
Strange one, he went for the Fulham job, had four references with his application, Fergie, Pep, Jose and Southgate and still didn’t get the job.

Going back a few years as well, in the summer of 1991, Barry Lloyd allegedly turned down job offers from both Chelsea and Southampton, electing to stay at the Albion, unfortunately by Dec 1993 he was effectively unemployable as a manager.

You are right, I am being very harsh on Wilder as he is a fantastic manager.
However he should have walked the Palace and Forest jobs.
I just feel as he was bottom of the rung at Sheff Utd in the end clubs will see this rather than his previous work and may find if difficult to get a job in the top division again
I do actually hope he does well in the future.
 










Uncle C

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Jul 6, 2004
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Going back a few years as well, in the summer of 1991, Barry Lloyd allegedly turned down job offers from both Chelsea and Southampton, electing to stay at the Albion, unfortunately by Dec 1993 he was effectively unemployable as a manager.

Barry Who?
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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You are right, I am being very harsh on Wilder as he is a fantastic manager.
However he should have walked the Palace and Forest jobs.
I just feel as he was bottom of the rung at Sheff Utd in the end clubs will see this rather than his previous work and may find if difficult to get a job in the top division again
I do actually hope he does well in the future.
Wilder can’t buy a player for tuppence and that was his downfall at SU.
 






Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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Question.

Have these managers all reached their sell by date?

Surely if you stay in the game long enough a bad run of results is inevitable? Or you find yourself at a club where all is not rosy behind the scenes? Or you take a job and the players are willing enough but just not as good as those in your division.
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Question.

Have these managers all reached their sell by date?

Surely if you stay in the game long enough a bad run of results is inevitable? Or you find yourself at a club where all is not rosy behind the scenes? Or you take a job and the players are willing enough but just not as good as those in your division.

Some have imo but there are a few mentioned on here who haven’t come close to sell by date. Benitez is one of them imo

Chris Wilder is an interesting one, he’s had one bad season :shrug:
 




Cowfold Seagull

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Apr 22, 2009
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Steve Bruce.

Feel really sorry for the guy to be honest. Listening to the abuse he was getting from Toon fans at the Spurs game after the Saudi takeover. Obviously he is a doomed man now, just a question of when he is given the sack, not if.

Not the greatest manager the League has ever seen obviously, but an honorable man l think who has done his best wherever he has managed. At the end of the day he managed to keep Newcastle in the Premier League with a team of poor players, and little to no investment at all.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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Feel really sorry for the guy to be honest. Listening to the abuse he was getting from Toon fans at the Spurs game after the Saudi takeover. Obviously he is a doomed man now, just a question of when he is given the sack, not if.

Not the greatest manager the League has ever seen obviously, but an honorable man l think who has done his best wherever he has managed. At the end of the day he managed to keep Newcastle in the Premier League with a team of poor players, and little to no investment at all.

Yes I think that Brucey has come out of this very well. He is the only one to do so.

I wonder what he'll do next. I'm sure he'll need a break to get a bit of therapy and spend his payoff millions, I but I suspect he'll do a bit of punditry and i'm sure will eventually try to get another manager's job. He actually has a pretty decent CV. I really hope he take a lower level job, draws Newcastle in the cup, knocks them out and celebrates wildly in front of the Gallowgate
 


A1X

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Feel really sorry for the guy to be honest. Listening to the abuse he was getting from Toon fans at the Spurs game after the Saudi takeover. Obviously he is a doomed man now, just a question of when he is given the sack, not if.

Not the greatest manager the League has ever seen obviously, but an honorable man l think who has done his best wherever he has managed. At the end of the day he managed to keep Newcastle in the Premier League with a team of poor players, and little to no investment at all.

A bit like when Ranieri was at Chelsea or Hughes at City, was clear they were going but they weren't immediately dispatched so had to put up with all kinds of shit they didn't deserve.
 






Icy Gull

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Feel really sorry for the guy to be honest. Listening to the abuse he was getting from Toon fans at the Spurs game after the Saudi takeover. Obviously he is a doomed man now, just a question of when he is given the sack, not if.

Not the greatest manager the League has ever seen obviously, but an honorable man l think who has done his best wherever he has managed. At the end of the day he managed to keep Newcastle in the Premier League with a team of poor players, and little to no investment at all.

I think you need to reconsider your last comment, you sound like a Toon fan! They have had massive investment and over the years (remember that PL team in the Championship) more than most of the bottom half clubs.

I do feel sorry for Bruce, then I remember he is about to get a 7 million payoff, so no need
 


Berty23

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Jun 26, 2012
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Jose m is obviously the correct answer.

If asked this question 2 years ago then One who I would have bet on being the correct answer by now is David moyes. Really impressed with what he has done at West Ham.
 


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