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Glenn Murray: The £75 million a season man.



El Presidente

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The more cynical among us suggested it was down to Muzza being in the last year of his contract and wanting a new deal. He was very average the season before.

Except he wasn't

First half season with us 8 goals in 21 (0.38 goals per game)
Second season 12 in 28 (0.43 goals per game)
Third season 14 in 37 (0.38 goals per game)
Final season 22 in 50 (0.44 goals per game)
 




Seasider78

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Nov 14, 2004
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Losing Murray was without doubt a big mistake but I don't get the way we are trying to paint that we would be in the premier league without him.

Let's not forget forget our first 2 seasons in the championship we finished above a Murray fuelled Palace side before being beaten in a playoff game he did not even feature in.

Claiming him as being a £75m man for me is a bit silly and ignores the contributions of both Zaha and Bolasie who have also been key to their success alongside murray late this season.

Our issue is our teams failure to recognise the importance of players like Murray and Ulloa and not letting them leave until adequate replacements had been lined up.
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Our issue is our teams failure to recognise the importance of players like Murray and Ulloa and not letting them leave until adequate replacements had been lined up.

I would agree that not replacing Ulloa adequately and trying to get away with COG was pretty poor business, a disaster even. However the club. the manager and the vast majority of fans, at the time, saw CMS as an upgrade on Murray. We are not very good at replacing good forwards are we?
 


Seasider78

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I would agree that not replacing Ulloa adequately and trying to get away with COG was pretty poor business, a disaster even. However the club. the manager and the vast majority of fans, at the time, saw CMS as an upgrade on Murray. We are not very good at replacing good forwards are we?

We are not although we always had a good eye for a striker in league 1 and now it appears we still have the same eye for a league 1 striker!!

A striker and some decent wide players to actually get whoever we bring in some service should be top of our shopping list this summer
 


maltaseagull

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Does every set of fans who's club has made a mistake in the transfer market, mercilessly beat themselves up over it for YEARS to come.


Or are we special?

We are special :)

We even delude ourselves into thinking that the sole reason Palace went up and stayed up is because we let Murray go and they signed him.

Pathetic really but hey, it gives us a reason for self-flagellation which we all must love. (Being Albion supporters)
 




Bring back Bryan wade!!

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Jun 28, 2010
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£74,000,000 TV rights.....

That's the difference right there. Incredible.

It will always be a distorted pyramid whilst that kind of money is being distributed at the top table.
 




El Presidente

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We are special :)

We even delude ourselves into thinking that the sole reason Palace went up and stayed up is because we let Murray go and they signed him.

Pathetic really but hey, it gives us a reason for self-flagellation which we all must love. (Being Albion supporters)

Highest scorer in league games the season they went up:

Murray with 30

Second highest scorer

Philips and Zaha with 6
 






Blue Valkyrie

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A few hundred K in wages vs 75 million.

Someone messed up badly.
 


Stat Brother

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A few hundred K in wages vs 75 million.

Someone messed up badly.
Based on the assumption that the Barnes-like figure of Murray would have scored 20+ goals a season (a feat he only managed once in the lower divisions) when the 19 (nineteen) other strikers with the exception of Leo have all failed miserably.

Murray's not scoring if he's not getting the ball.

Anyone of those 19 would have had scored more goals with Zahahaha, Bolasie and t'other fella putting the ball on a plate for them.
Or flinging themselves to the ground, the moment they enter the penalty area.

Like everybody else Murray isn't scoring with Bridcutt, Dicker & Navarro told to play keep ball.

Then one from:-

A lame right winger.
A one trick diving show pony left winger.
&
A player incapable of making the final pass.
 




maltaseagull

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Highest scorer in league games the season they went up:

Murray with 30

Second highest scorer



Philips and Zaha with 6

He had great service then! Plus their defence probably played too? Also I believe he missed most of their first season in the top tier and so didn't have much to do with keeping them up. Good player and doing very well at Palace.

Good luck to him and let's move on.
 


MattBackHome

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Jul 7, 2003
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I'm guessing that yesterday was a particularly slow day on NSC, hence the creation of two deliberately provocative threads to try and drive some binfestage.

At least this thread contains some useful source information though. The Bournemouth one is simply shit.
 










Mutts Nuts

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Oct 30, 2011
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Does every set of fans who's club has made a mistake in the transfer market, mercilessly beat themselves up over it for YEARS to come.


Or are we special?

Clubs with ambition do not release there leading goal scorer for the sake of a couple of grand a week ,Glenn did not want to leave he only wanted a justified pay rise.That has cost our club 75 million a year , as Gus said at the time Tony would not raise the wage budget to keep him
 


Mutts Nuts

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He would have stayed for £4k less than what Palace were offering. "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth" applies to this, and we did.

Tony may be a good business man and he loses loads at poker, but he has not got a clue about running a successful football club
 




chaileyjem

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Jun 27, 2012
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Tony may be a good business man and he loses loads at poker, but he has not got a clue about running a successful football club

If only Bloom could learn from the likes of let's say Leeds, Blackpool , Wigan and Forest we'd be laughing.
 


Stat Brother

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Clubs with ambition do not release there leading goal scorer for the sake of a couple of grand a week ,Glenn did not want to leave he only wanted a justified pay rise.That has cost our club 75 million a year , as Gus said at the time Tony would not raise the wage budget to keep him
As in post #51 your confusing Murray's ability to score goals with palace's ability to create goals, and transferring that directly onto our toothless Albion SQUAD.

Wake up.

When palace were shitehouse so was 9 goal Murray.
When palace began to attack (and dive) Murray flourished.

We have never attacked, and KLL only dives when 30 yards from goal, so he can shoot.

Murray would have just been yet another AMEX era failed striker.
 


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