[Politics] Give the current government a score out of 10 for their handling of COVID-19

[Boroseagull]

on PPE contracts, there's a lot of fibs from some quarters, claims made that dont stand up with some further research. but the twittersphere perpetuate the lies so they are accepted. contracts dont get paid out until delivery (and to specification), so the popup companies that didnt deliver wont have got paid.

Quite, so easy to check all these claims via fullfact.org.

 

[Sorrel]

Very much a learning process, with multiple mistakes on the way. But I think they have got better at it - as has everyone, this is not limited to political parties - and I'd give them 7/10 at the moment.

 

[BBassic]

3/10

For an unprecedented, in modern times, calamity like this they did alright with a few things like furlough and the mortgage holidays and the stamp duty cut.

The Cummings eye-test fiasco, cronyism in the awarding of contracts, the sodding PM boasting about hand-shaking COVID patients and not attending Cobra meetings, more U-turns than a poorly designed Scalextric track and countless other f**k ups have washed out 7 points for me though.

 

[Withdean11]

2/10

Like most of the world, they have massively over-reacted.

The opposition however, would’ve scored 1/10

 

[R. Slicker]

A generous 3 from me.
1 for the 13 weeks of Furlough through the fantastic summer weather.
1 because any Government that gave a Littlehampton pest control company (with no experience), a multi million PPE contract and still be in office must have balls of steel and 1 for having the front to still be smirking their way through press conferences even after how badly it's gone.

 

[GT49er]

If you want to talk about the B word there is a thread on that subject so you wouldn't drag other ones off topic. This is about the Government's handling of Covid

Don't be such a plum. The OP wasn't changing the subject to Brexit, or trying to derail the thread, just pointing out that some folk are likely to give a lower score because pre-existing hatred of everything Boris. Just as when people are doing the player ratings after a match some will naturally give Jahanbakhsh or Connolly a lower mark because of their pre-set belief that they aren't a PL footballer anyway. You seem very touchy about it..........

Post #2, though exaggerating and tongue in cheek, sums it up quite nicely!

PS. It was one of your fellow remainers who first mentioned Brexit on this thread - post #5.

 

[Bakero]

Yet another sucked in believing that NSC would vote like the UK public, they got Brexit and the election WRONG so why would anyone take a blind bit of notice about this poll?


This was a guide to what the UK might think not NSC.

We know they are within the own bubble of society when it comes to politics.

Yet another pointless poll.

Despite a few obvious outliers, NSC often does seem more rational and intelligent than UK society at large.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

 

[GT49er]

Yup, Government on hiding to nothing in this poll unless they cancel Brexit.
6 out of 10 for me on Covid. I think the messaging should have been much stronger and backed up with sanctions. The re-opening of schools and universities has been a disaster but I think all parties would have made that mistake when faced with the realities of Government.

Best post on the thread - 100% right. I gave them 6 too - unprecedented situation, some mistakes obviously made; but hey! - isn't hindsight wonderful!

 

[Seasidesage]

Slow to react
Failed to shut borders
Pathetic and frankly dishonest procurement of PPE
Muddled messages
Ministers and officials ignoring messages
Failure to impose preventative measures quickly or severely enough
Track and Trace - Absolute fiasco

This is a truly inept and corrupt government and regardless of your political persuasion surely very few can be happy with the shambles we have currently? Yes a very difficult situation, furlough was dealt with quite well although the self employed scheme is a mess but what else have they managed adequately? Track and trace is a joke and that was the key to managing this. Strict curfews and testing is what has worked in other countries, what have we had? You can go down the pub but only till 10? Nothing would have prevented this, but an adequately managed response could have minimised the effect like in Germany or New Zealand for example.

 

[Soton Seagull]

Some seem quite forgiving and accept unprecedented etc, but putting untested in care homes was scandalous and cost lives through negligence. Cummings fiasco and always doing things way after advice- leading to additional suffering leads me to a generous 2. 12 billion given to friends and non medical outsourcers also grates, and probably cost lives through appalling test and trace procedures.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Don't be such a plum. The OP wasn't changing the subject to Brexit, or trying to derail the thread, just pointing out that some folk are likely to give a lower score because pre-existing hatred of everything Boris. Just as when people are doing the player ratings after a match some will naturally give Jahanbakhsh or Connolly a lower mark because of their pre-set belief that they aren't a PL footballer anyway. You seem very touchy about it..........

Post #2, though exaggerating and tongue in cheek, sums it up quite nicely!

PS. It was one of your fellow remainers who first mentioned Brexit on this thread - post #5.

Try not to open with an insult, it really does diminish anything else you try to say.

So what you and [MENTION=34242]Neville's Breakfast[/MENTION] are trying to say is that

Some folk will give a lower score because they have disagreed with Johnson on other subjects
But nobody will give a higher score because they have agreed with Johnson on other subjects

Maybe it just me that can see a possible issue with the logic of that

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

A lot clueless comments throughout Brexit and CV-19 by the government, the opposition (who appear more clueless) and particularly on NSC.

Any government would have struggled.

6/10 for me purely because of Cummings situation


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[One Teddy Maybank]

Surely using common sense shouldn’t need Govt guidelines? I find it impossible to blame the them for people’s stupidity/selfishness and rule bending

Bang on.

It’s the public who have proven themselves stupid.......


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[maltaseagull]

I love watching how quickly certain threads disappear into the Bear Pit.

I voted 5, could do better but there is no guaranteed masterplan as far as I am concerned.

Too many seem to think it’s OK to make up their own rules on this, which has a lot to do with where we are. Hard to blame the Government for any of that. You think it’d be different under Starmer?

I think I do.
I imagine he would have brought in lockdown earlier and more completely and "bugger the economic consequences as we can increase taxes to pay for it later."
I also think he would have been much more careful in what was promised.
One of the Governments biggest failures has been the constant over promising and under delivering.

 

[GT49er]

Some folk will give a lower score because they have disagreed with Johnson on other subjects?

Yes.

But nobody will give a higher score because they have agreed with Johnson on other subjects?

No.

Maybe it just me that can see a possible issue with the logic of that

More or less, yes.

 

[Baldseagull]

on PPE contracts, there's a lot of fibs from some quarters, claims made that dont stand up with some further research. but the twittersphere perpetuate the lies so they are accepted. contracts dont get paid out until delivery (and to specification), so the popup companies that didnt deliver wont have got paid.

Whilst those companies are busy not delivering though, health workers are dying because of inadequate PPE. Where PPE has be delivered, it is often at extreme cost, I appreciate that buying PPE during a global pandemic is likely to cost a premium, but some of the suppliers (many having never supplied any sort of PPE before) really took the piss.

 

[MJsGhost]

After 185 votes cast, there's an average score of 3.98, which seems about right to me!

For all of the valid points about it being a difficult situation to govern, for me, there have been too many significant f**k-ups for anything higher than a 4.

To choose just one, there is no covid-mitigation for the massive error in judgment when Cummings wasn't fired - something which blew a hole in the government's message regarding the rules and completely undermined their authority.


EDIT: 3.99 after 190 votes

 

[MJsGhost]

One of the Governments biggest failures has been the constant over promising and under delivering.

Yup.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Yes.

No.

More or less, yes.

I thought that was what you were trying to say. I just didn't want to think I was misinterpreting you