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Uncle Spielberg

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yes, that will really encourage victims of serious crime to come forward, won't it!

I have expressed my opinion and that is it.
 




Some shameful comments on this thread from fellow Brighton fans, worse still is I assumed they would have the life experience to know better.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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Sorry. I assumed you were referring to an actor, not a fictional character. What did Kevin Webster do? I haven't followed Coronation Street since Ena Sharples died.

:jester:

I am sure betty and her hot pot snagged a few.
 


Wozza

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It is an opinion. Why single me out ? It is only my opinion and that is all I can offer. Thanks and love.

Why single you out?

Because you're claiming, on a highly trafficked public forum, that a defendant is innocent whilst there are ongoing criminal proceedings. Leaving aside the legalities of that, imagine if a family member of yours was a victim.

And because your opinion appears to be partly based on what the defendant looks like in press photographs. (!!)

And, what's more, you've subsequently referred to a man accused of 19 child sex offences by his TV character name.

In fairness, if you ever got done for contempt of court, your laywer could just argue that no-one would ever take you seriously...
 




poidy

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Sky News reporting he's now been charged
 


Uncle Spielberg

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Why single you out?

Because you're claiming, on a highly trafficked public forum, that a defendant is innocent whilst there are ongoing criminal proceedings. Leaving aside the legalities of that, imagine if a family member of yours was a victim.

And because your opinion appears to be partly based on what the defendant looks like in press photographs. (!!)

And, what's more, you've subsequently referred to a man accused of 19 child sex offences by his TV character name.

In fairness, if you ever got done for contempt of court, your laywer could just argue that no-one would ever take you seriously...

Ok. I am sorry. BUT people on here have said they had sex with under 16 year olds and I told them that was highly problematic for them. I do not have a clue about the photographs argument as I never made it. Referring to a man's character's name is probably better than referring to his real name and all in all you thought you had an opportunity to have a kick and you did as that is you. So fair play to you. You are at least consistant. This is just a chance to have a pop and you did. Good for you. Big points. You are a winner. Well done.
 


severnside gull

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Stuart Hall stated he would have committed suicide if it were not for the support of his family so these accusations destroy people. As it is it is likely it has taken a few years off his life even if proved innocent.

the real issue for me is that he is unlikely to be found (or at least thought by very many) innocent but rather found not guilty through lack of actual proof (how do the police justify searching someones home for evidence of a 46 year old alleged crime - do they think he kept his underpants?) ............... the damage is done no matter what the outcome. Who invited press and tv cameras to that little house visit I wonder? ....... and meanwhile any number of rock stars are (as someone pointed out) are still dining out on and lauded for stories of the same crime. Double standards? Hypocrisy?
 




Uncle Spielberg

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the real issue for me is that he is unlikely to be found (or at least thought by very many) innocent but rather found not guty through lack of actual proof (how do the police justify searching someones home for evidence of a 46 year old alleged crime - do they think he kept his underpants?) ............... the damage is done no matter what the outcome........ and meanwhile any number of rock stars are (as someone pointed out) are still dining out on and lauded for stories of the same crime. Double standards? Hypocrisy?

I have agreed with you.
 


severnside gull

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Stuart Hall stated he would have committed suicide if it were not for the support of his family so these accusations destroy people. As it is it is likely it has taken a few years off his life even if proved innocent.

the real issue for me is that he is unlukely to be found innocent but rather found not guty through lack of actual proof (how do the police justify searching someones home for evidence of a 46 year old alleged crime - do they think he kept his underpants?) ............... thevdamage is done no matter what the outcome........ and meanwhile any number of rock stars are (as someone pointed out) are still dining out on and lauded for stories of the same crime. Double standards? Hypocrisy?
 






Acker79

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Pretty sure if he raped a 15 year old girl he'd remember.

Not if he didn't realise he was raping her.

Rapists Explain Themselves on Reddit, and We Should Listen

Multiple men said that they didn't end up going as far as they had intended once they actually looked the woman they were with in the face:

I'm a good man. I have a wife and a couple of kids now and I'm a good father and husband. I'm a pretty moral guy. But I think the thing that has always stuck with me...is how close I came to actually doing it. If I hadn't looked up at her face and seen what she was feeling, I might have continued. In my mind, at the time, she wanted it. I can remember staring at the ceiling while on the couch thinking "in a couple of minutes she's going to come out here and get on top of me."​

Or:

...It was then I looked at her face. She was petrified. I at that point pulled myself together, rolled off her and apologized. My hormones were RAGING. I asked her why she didn't want to. I told her what I thought above. She started to cry.​

That's arguably the most disturbing takeaway from the thread: these guys are so disconnected from reality that they don't even feel the need to look women in the face to be sure they're interested.

It's very clear that many of these people didn't feel like what they were doing was wrong because they didn't (and/or still don't) think of themselves as rapists. Rapists are the scary strangers hiding in the bushes. Rapists don't feel remorse. Rapists prey on pure girls, not sluts who show cleavage and want to fool around.​
 


Uncle Spielberg

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As above. Anyway we all have our opinions so lets just respect that and not try and gain petty and childish point scoring as there is as always an underlying agenda on nsc, peace and love. US XX
 


poidy

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Well if he is convicted I hope he isn't afforded the same luxury as his spouse was in the well publicised 'Free Deidre' campaign
 




mwrpoole

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What did the law used to be?

I think it was called something like 'unlawful sex with a minor' or words to that effect. It's now known as 'statutory rape', how that is different from 'rape' I don't know, but I assume one is consensual and the latter is not.
 


As above. Anyway we all have our opinions so lets just respect that and not try and gain petty and childish point scoring as there is as always an underlying agenda on nsc, peace and love. US XX

Give over Uncle, you've had your say on the matter and have been quite vocal that you find the rape of minors acceptable because the accused may not have known their age.

Allow others to voice their utter disgust at your comments, because you are so far far in the wrong here.
 


Triggaaar

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I think it was called something like 'unlawful sex with a minor' or words to that effect. It's now known as 'statutory rape', how that is different from 'rape' I don't know, but I assume one is consensual and the latter is not.
Cheers.
 


Uncle Spielberg

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Give over Uncle, you've had your say on the matter and have been quite vocal that you find the rape of minors acceptable because the accused may not have known their age.

Allow others to voice their utter disgust at your comments, because you are so far far in the wrong here.

When did I EVER say that ? Tread carefully.
 






Uncle Spielberg

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Re-read what you've written.

Tread carefully my arse.

Where have I ever said the rape of an under 16 year old is acceptable ? Dispicable.
 


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