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[Football] Gerrard Confirmed as Villa Boss



vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
Damn! cue a Vanilla bounce!
 






Poojah

Well-known member
Nov 19, 2010
1,881
Leeds
Huge pressure, not now in a two horse race.

That’s the crux of it for me. I felt, wrongly it transpires, that he was on a hiding to nothing at Rangers in that he probably wouldn’t win the league and so could never truly succeed there. Ultimately he did, but how much of that was down to his managerial ability and how much was it due to Brendan Rogers leaving Celtic and their subsequent implosion? That’s the big question.

What does success look like at Villa? They strike me as a club with expectations and potential that don’t quite align, and that makes it a difficult job in an environment where a short period of poor form can see you out of a job, as Dean Smith recently learned.

If this is a stepping stone to the Liverpool job when allow leaves, it strikes me as a treacherous one.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,271
Withdean area
That’s the crux of it for me. I felt, wrongly it transpires, that he was on a hiding to nothing at Rangers in that he probably wouldn’t win the league and so could never truly succeed there. Ultimately he did, but how much of that was down to his managerial ability and how much was it due to Brendan Rogers leaving Celtic and their subsequent implosion? That’s the big question.

What does success look like at Villa? They strike me as a club with expectations and potential that don’t quite align, and that makes it a difficult job in an environment where a short period of poor form can see you out of a job, as Dean Smith recently learned.

If this is a stepping stone to the Liverpool job when allow leaves, it strikes me as a treacherous one.

Shirley top ten, I recently worked out from reliable data that their squad cost £444m, that’s about double ours.

Although the loss of Grealish is huge. His game-changing, plus the diving around, won them an awful load of points last season.

I wonder if he has assurances about spending, the way they targeted him immediately making him the man (unlike the summer charade at Spuds or the last chaotic month at NUFC), I would suggest means that have. They need a CB for starters, error strewn and comatose Mings is inept.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
I really don't see how this move is going to improve SG's stock in terms of him getting the Liverpool job at some point down the line. Surely winning titles at Rangers and maybe the odd beyond expectation stint in Europe would have been enough.

Also, as a great player as he undoubtedly was, there's something rather irritating about him as a manager.
He's had a fantastic playing career and if he feels he wants to do football management he should be able to go where he likes, and manage without the Millstone of Liverpool around his neck.

He will know if he's up to the stress and hard work of management. He's probably got plenty of cash in the bank and that means he can walk away from the business if he can't cut it. If he gets good enough to manage a top 5/6 team then fair play to him, he will have done well. Remember, 11 player's in a team, only one manager so the odds are 10-1 to make it as a manager right from the start.
 






Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
That’s the crux of it for me. I felt, wrongly it transpires, that he was on a hiding to nothing at Rangers in that he probably wouldn’t win the league and so could never truly succeed there. Ultimately he did, but how much of that was down to his managerial ability and how much was it due to Brendan Rogers leaving Celtic and their subsequent implosion? That’s the big question.

What does success look like at Villa? They strike me as a club with expectations and potential that don’t quite align, and that makes it a difficult job in an environment where a short period of poor form can see you out of a job, as Dean Smith recently learned.

If this is a stepping stone to the Liverpool job when allow leaves, it strikes me as a treacherous one.

If you take 102 points, it matters little what Celtic do. Rangers had a great season, no doubt.

Its a sign that he is a good manager but this is a different beast and it is difficult to predict how it will work out.

Top 10 is probably what they want with their spending and wages but if they end up top 12 this season I think their board, fans, media etc. would be happy.
 


Happy Exile

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Apr 19, 2018
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I'm already dreading the day "Steven Gerrard's Aston Villa" play "Frank Lampard's Norwich". All we need is "Wayne Rooney's Derby County" to be in the mix too somehow via the FA Cup and the media will work themselves into a frenzy from which there'll be no return.
 




WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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Shirley top ten, I recently worked out from reliable data that their squad cost £444m, that’s about double ours.

Although the loss of Grealish is huge. His game-changing, plus the diving around, won them an awful load of points last season.

I wonder if he has assurances about spending, the way they targeted him immediately making him the man (unlike the summer charade at Spuds or the last chaotic month at NUFC), I would suggest means that have. They need a CB for starters, error strewn and comatose Mings is inept.

I would LOVE it, if Colin Goldstone turns out to be that man :lolol:
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
Gerrard is probably a decent manager but I think the job he's done is over stated. After all, while Gerrard was in Scotland, Celtic were in an absolute mess and yet he still didn't win the most trophies of any team while he was up there.
 




WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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I'm already dreading the day "Steven Gerrard's Aston Villa" play "Frank Lampard's Norwich". All we need is "Wayne Rooney's Derby County" to be in the mix too somehow via the FA Cup and the media will work themselves into a frenzy from which there'll be no return.

You mean Wayne Rooney's formerly known as Chelsea's Frank Lampard's Derby County :mad:
 


golddene

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Jul 28, 2012
2,019
Absolutely, from facing Livingston, Ross County and Dundee FC to facing Man City and Chelsea, what could possibly go right?

I see where you are coming from Cheeky, it's just my opinion. Time will tell how it all works out, hopefully quite some time as we're up next for them.
 


pornomagboy

wake me up before you gogo who needs potter when
May 16, 2006
6,089
peacehaven
more worried about united sacking ollie and them going after brendon Rogers as potter would go Leicester

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Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
QUOTE=Munkfish;10065059]An easy 3 pointer for Villa now, whenever a team needs points. Play Brighton.[/QUOTE]

If Howe had had a week at Newcastle I suggest we would have blown them away. They would have gone for it which would have been much better for us than the way they set up, which was perfect to frustrate us

The Villa game is certainly more interesting now.
 






NooBHA

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Jan 13, 2015
8,591
Lampard potentially to Norwich....

Can this PL relegation battle accommodate them both?


Can you imagine the '' Implosion of the Media '' if their '' Three Musketeers '' Eddie Howe, Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard all get relegated in one fell swoop next May - Along with the Relegation of the 4th Musketeer '' D'artagnan Rooney '' getting relegated from the Championship


The end of the World is ''Nigh '' I tell ya
 


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