[News] George Floyd trial

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

What again? He's one of the most "ignored" posters on this board. He's been on my list pretty much since the function was introduced.

He was the first I put on ignore, ahead of the likes of Looney. Quite an accomplishment.

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

It was the right decision - and it will send a message to other cops.

However, the other three cops on the scene should also have been charged with the same crime - two of them were actively involved in restraining George Floyd and the third did nothing to stop them.

Furthermore, the American media will present this as one bad apple and the system worked - when in reality this is a systemic problem within the police departments across the USA. A large part of the problem is that the cops in America have 'qualified immunity' which basically protects them from sanction for acts of police brutality and depriving people of their civil rights.

This is Adam Toldeo - a 13 year old Latino boy shot dead by police in Chicago three weeks ago, unarmed and with his hands in the air just before being fatally shot in the chest.

This is Kyle Rittenhouse - a 17 year-old white kid with a history of racist posts on social media - who broke federal law by crossing state lines with an AR-15, who interacted with police who encouraged him to be in Kenosha during BLM protests, who fired multiple rounds in a crowd of protesters, killed two people and wounded a third - and then walked casually through police lines (police who viewed the shootings) and drove home. Since then police officers have donated thousands of dollars to his legal defence fund. The Kenosha protests happened subsequent to the police shooting an unarmed black man, Jacob Blake, four times in the back after he had been tased, paralysing Blake from the waist down (the cop actually fired seven times from point blank range).

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

This is a list of unarmed black and brown people murdered by police in America in the last two years -

Daunte Demetrius Wright, October 27, 2000 - April 11, 2021
Brooklyn Center, Minnesota
Shot: Brooklyn Center Police Officer, April 11, 2021

Marvin David Scott III, 1995 - March 14, 2021
McKinney, Texas
Peppered sprayed/Restrained with spit hood/Asphyxiated: 7 Collin County Jail Detention Officers, March 14, 2021

Patrick Lynn Warren Sr., October 7, 1968 - January 10, 2021
Killeen, Texas
Shot: Killeen Police Officer, January 10, 2021

Vincent “Vinny” M. Belmonte, September 14, 2001 - January 5, 2021
Cleveland, Ohio
Shot: Cleveland Police Officer, January 5, 20201

Angelo Quinto, March 10, 1990 - December 26, 2020
Antioch, California
Knee on neck/Asphyxiated: December 23, 2020

Andre Maurice Hill, May 23, 1973 - December 22, 2020
Columbus, Ohio
Shot: December 22, 2020, Columbus Police Officer

Casey Christopher Goodson Jr., January 30, 1997 - December 4, 2020
Columbus, Ohio
Shot: December 4, 2020, Franklin County Sheriff Deputy

Angelo “AJ” Crooms, May 15, 2004 - November 13, 2020
Cocoa, Florida
Shot: November 13, 2020, Brevard County Sheriff Deputies

Sincere Pierce, April 2, 2002 - November 13, 2020
Cocoa, Florida
Shot: November 13, 2020, Brevard County Sheriff Deputies

Marcellis Stinnette, June 17, 2001 - October 20, 2020
Waukegan, Illinois
Shot: October 20, 2020, Waukegan Police Officer

Jonathan Dwayne Price, November 3, 1988 - October 3, 2020
Wolfe City, Texas
Tasered/Shot: October 3, 2020, Wolfe City Police Officer

Dijon Durand Kizzee, February 5, 1991 - August 31, 2020
Los Angeles, California
Shot: August 21, 2020, Los Angeles County Police

Rayshard Brooks, January 31, 1993 - June 12, 2020
Atlanta, Georgia
Shot: June 12, 2020, Atlanta Police Officer

Carlos Carson, May 16, 1984 - June 6, 2020
Tulsa, Oklahoma
Pepper Sprayed/Shot in Head: June 6, 2020, Knights Inn Tulsa Armed Security Guard, former sergeant and detention officer with the Tulsa County Sheriff’s Office

David McAtee, August 3, 1966 - June 1, 2020
Louisville, Kentucky
Shot: June 1, 2020, Louisville Metropolitan Police Officer

Tony “Tony the TIger” McDade, 1982 - May 27, 2020
Tallahassee, Florida
Shot: May 27, 2020, Tallahassee Police Officers

George Perry Floyd, October 14, 1973 - May 25, 2020
Powderhorn, Minneapolis, Minnesota
Knee on neck/Asphyxiated: May 25, 2020, Minneapolis Police Officer

Dreasjon “Sean” Reed, 1999 - May 6, 2020
Indianapolis, Indiana
Shot: May 6, 2020, Unidentified Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Officer

Michael Brent Charles Ramos, January 1, 1978 - April 24, 2020
Austin, Texas
Shot: April 24, 2020, Austin Police Detectives

Daniel T. Prude, September 20, 1978 - March 30, 2020
Rochester, New York
Asphyxiation: March 23, 2020, Rochester Police Officers

Breonna Taylor, June 5, 1993 - March 13, 2020
Louisville, Kentucky
Shot: March 13, 2020, Louisville Metro Police Officers

Manuel “Mannie” Elijah Ellis, August 28, 1986 - March 3, 2020
Tacoma, Washington
Physical restraint/Hypoxia: March 3, 2020, Tacoma Police Officers

William Howard Green, March 16, 1976 - January 27, 2020
Temple Hills, Maryland
Shot: January 27, 2020, Prince George’s County Police Officer

John Elliot Neville, 1962 - December 4, 2019
Winston-Salem, North Carolina
Asphyxiated (hog-tied in prone position)/Heart Attack/Brain Injury: December 2, 2019, Forsyth County Sheriff Officers

Atatiana Koquice Jefferson, November 28, 1990 - October 12, 2019
Fort Worth, Texas
Shot: October 12, 2019, Fort Worth Police Officer

Elijah McClain, February 25, 1996 - August 30, 2019
Aurora, Colorado
Chokehold/Ketamine/Heart Attack: August 24, 2019, Aurora Police Officers and Paramedic

Ronald Greene, September 28, 1969 - May 10, 2019
Monroe, Louisiana
Stun gun/Force: May 10, 2019, Louisiana State Police

Javier Ambler, October 7, 1978 - March 28, 2019
Austin, Texas
Tasered/Electrocuted: March 28, 2019, Williamson County Sheriff Deputy

Sterling Lapree Higgins, October 27, 1981 - March 25, 2019
Union City, Tennessee
Choke hold/Asphyxiation: March 24-25, 2019, Union City Police Officer and Obion County Sheriff Deputies

 

[The Clamp]

Good.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

He was the first I put on ignore, ahead of the likes of Looney. Quite an accomplishment.

This peanut must have half of NSC on ignore he's in so many different threads declaring someone is on ignore.

 

[Weststander]

You’ve shown your true colours in that little rant.

It's not been a good 6 months for fanboys of America's racist alt-right.

Trump, Chauvin & loss of control of The Senate.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

And on it goes...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56825871

 

[KeithDublin]

It was the right decision - and it will send a message to other cops.

However, the other three cops on the scene should also have been charged with the same crime - two of them were actively involved in restraining George Floyd and the third did nothing to stop them.

Furthermore, the American media will present this as one bad apple and the system worked - when in reality this is a systemic problem within the police departments across the USA. A large part of the problem is that the cops in America have 'qualified immunity' which basically protects them from sanction for acts of police brutality and depriving people of their civil rights.

This is Adam Toldeo - a 13 year old Latino boy shot dead by police in Chicago three weeks ago, unarmed and with his hands in the air just before being fatally shot in the chest.

This is Kyle Rittenhouse - a 17 year-old white kid with a history of racist posts on social media - who broke federal law by crossing state lines with an AR-15, who interacted with police who encouraged him to be in Kenosha during BLM protests, who fired multiple rounds in a crowd of protesters, killed two people and wounded a third - and then walked casually through police lines (police who viewed the shootings) and drove home. Since then police officers have donated thousands of dollars to his legal defence fund. The Kenosha protests happened subsequent to the police shooting an unarmed black man, Jacob Blake, four times in the back after he had been tased, paralysing Blake from the waist down (the cop actually fired seven times from point blank range).

Well, it depends which media you read/ watch. When the President is talking about systemic racism, you know that the issue is being discussed, whether anything concrete will be done is another matter.

 

[Hugo Rune]

And on it goes...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56825871

Looks like she was shot whilst she was in the process of stabbing people?

It seems to me that US Police officers always shoot to kill rather than stop a behaviour or disable an assailant.

 

[sydney]

Looks like she was shot whilst she was in the process of stabbing people?

It seems to me that US Police officers always shoot to kill rather than stop a behaviour or disable an assailant.

they can't win ..America is mental mate ...New York , Chicago , Detroit , La .......make London look like Brideshead Revisited.....its just bonkers.


i'm surprised they gave a murder verdict , no doubt there will be an appeal . another ****ing circus that affects absolutely nobody in England.

 

[KeithDublin]

Sometimes in the states , when police are accused of murder , you can see possible reasons why a situation may have happened, especially if they are involved in a gun battle or a gun is being pointed at a policeman . This case is the clearest case of murder i have ever seen where there was zero threat to the policeman at all times and the man killed was clearly suffering from some anxiety issues . One of the biggest problems we have in the states which is different to here in England is the way that the police usually speak to both Black and Hispanic ‘ suspects ‘ it’s usually in a off hand and aggressive manner that suggests the police have already decided they must have done something wrong . This helps create an atmosphere of distrust on both sides .

Your kidding right? You think that there isn't a racism issue in the UK and that the UK police don't talk to black people in a off hand and aggressive manner?

 

[KeithDublin]

Looks like she was shot whilst she was in the process of stabbing people?

It seems to me that US Police officers always shoot to kill rather than stop a behaviour or disable an assailant.

Nope, they'll try and save them if they're white

https://newsone.com/playlist/white-arrested-with-by-police/

 

[sydney]

Your kidding right? You think that there isn't a racism issue in the UK and that the UK police don't talk to black people in a off hand and aggressive manner?

the guy that maced the squaddie in the face for having the temerity to drive into the next safe stopping spot was a fat mexican .......Americfa is ****ed up , England isn't anywhere near as bad , mainly because our "bobbies" don't carry gun so they have to try and talk their way around a situation....for the moment..!

 

[bha100]

 

[Acker79]

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[B-right-on]

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Ridiculous and inflammatory statement. The girl had a knife and was in the process of stabbing the other girl in the neck. Just have to look at the video.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Ridiculous and inflammatory statement. The girl had a knife and was in the process of stabbing the other girl in the neck. Just have to look at the video.

Spot on. People really need to watch the video.

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

Looks like she was shot whilst she was in the process of stabbing people?

It seems to me that US Police officers always shoot to kill rather than stop a behaviour or disable an assailant.

The girl was clearly disturbed - she was in foster care - and the cops in America never attempt to de-escalate or use 'non-lethal' methods.

Doesn't just happen there though - 3/4 months ago the cops in Ireland shot dead a young black man with mental health problems. The guy was standing outside his own front door (after a confrontation in a local shop) with a knife and the cops wouldn't let his sister talk to him. They shot him five times including twice in the back,

 

[bha100]

The girl was clearly disturbed - she was in foster care - and the cops in America never attempt to de-escalate or use 'non-lethal' methods.

Doesn't just happen there though - 3/4 months ago the cops in Ireland shot dead a young black man with mental health problems. The guy was standing outside his own front door (after a confrontation in a local shop) with a knife and the cops wouldn't let his sister talk to him. They shot him five times including twice in the back,

It would appear that in this instance the cop had to make a split second decision, to me it looks like the girl in pink would of been stabbed, possibly fatally if he had not taken out the other girl


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[Weststander]

It would appear that in this instance the cop had to make a split second decision, to me it looks like the girl in pink would of been stabbed, possibly fatally if he had not taken out the other girl


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I generally condemn the trigger happy use of lethal force by US police in these incidents.

But I have to agree with you. The other women was likely milliseconds away from an horrific knife attack. The police may well have saved her life. There was simply no time for anything else eg a risky shot to the legs would not have stopped the momentum of the slashing.

This incident bears no relation to the George Floyd murder imo.