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scamander

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Aug 9, 2011
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I've got a couple of mates who teach and at a recent pub catchup the 'snowflake' term came up. In balance they did say that due to social media there's a lot of pressure and general dynamics which we never had growing up and this does mess with a lot of kids. That said they find a lot of their job is spent catering to kids who think the world truly revolves around them. The worrying thing is that the school/college environment can often be the way a student makes sense of the world, by acquiescing on these it'll mean the workplace experience might be a real shock to the system.

Whilst depression and the various mental health issues are rightly spoken about it has led to the 'depressed' line as a fallback for a student to get out of handing work in or turning up for lessons. What ever happened to dogs eating homework?
 


alfredmizen

alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
W.C. said:
Vicious was very ott, not sure where that sprang from. Was thinking more of the constant criticism of the lifestyles of the young. I just don't see how it's helpful.
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It's bollox as well,most young people I know own are great .
 






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Mo Gosfield

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Aug 11, 2010
6,362
highflyer said:
Sshhh don't tell them, they can't handle the truth

To be fair, when I see middle class white kids protesting against airport expansion under the banner of 'black lives matter' I do die a little inside.

But that doesn't mean climate change and racism are not genuine problems or there are not are legitimate reasons to speak up and take action.

'The arc of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice' (Martin Luther King)
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King's moral compass covered all points except his own pants and thats where it ended.
 


Hamilton

Hamilton

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NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,953
Brighton
It used to just be called being dogmatic. Now it appears we have to tarnish a generation. Why we feel the need to do so is beyond me. I know many opinionated and unchallengeable people of many ages on either side of many issues.
 






Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
67,875
Beside the seaside, beside the sea
pearl said:
Yes, the ones I meet are very polite and considerate, far more than my own generation (born late 40s to early 60s) ever were or are!
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I can remember my Dad saying 'kids today, don't know they're born'. He was probably right, as he was a teenager when the war started.
 


carlzeiss

carlzeiss

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May 19, 2009
6,236
Amazonia
Fine example of premature bedwetting from yesterdays BBC news .

No sure if it would be appropriate to call this person a snowflake though .


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spring hall convert

spring hall convert

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Nov 3, 2009
9,608
Brighton
Buzzer said:
The 'clapping causes anxiety' http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32032291/students-swap-clapping-for-jazz-hands-at-nus-event

'Gay men appropriating black women culture' http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/03/2...ells-gay-men-to-stop-acting-like-black-women/

'Selling sushi is cultural appropriation' http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...priation-over-undercooked-sushi-a6781821.html

'Germaine Greer's trans comments' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-34613148

'Peter Tatchell is racist and transphobic' https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...dents-free-speech-veteran-gay-rights-activist

Sadly, all of these incidents are true. I'll happily concede that they represent the more ludicrous end of the spectrum but it's indicative of the culture that exists at universities and why people such as man-hating, anti-semite NUS president Malia Bouattia rise to the top.
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I'm not fond of this no platforming culture, I'm very much of the opinion that you get views represented and questioned.

However, if Greer isn't transphobic, then she sure says a lot of transphobic things. It's a legitimate problem to have with her, whereas the first three examples are just plain ridiculous.
 








Buzzer

Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
spring hall convert said:
I'm not fond of this no platforming culture, I'm very much of the opinion that you get views represented and questioned.

However, if Greer isn't transphobic, then she sure says a lot of transphobic things. It's a legitimate problem to have with her, whereas the first three examples are just plain ridiculous.
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I understand why you say she's transphobic but I think that's a rather loaded phrase and it does lump her in into a group that I don't think she deserves. Like you, I completely disagree with her view regarding trans people. I do believe that people can be born into the wrong body which is something that Greer can't accept, she simply doesn't think that someone born a man could ever be a woman or vice versa but 'transphobic' suggests (to me anyway) that there's a dislike of trans people or at least an intolerance. Simply disagreeing about something isn't necessarily intolerance and Greer has said time and again that what other people do with their own body is of no concern of hers.

Your point about no platforming is spot on. It's no coincidence that the demise of the BNP started with their appearance on Question Time.
 






Garry Nelson's Left Foot

Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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Jul 7, 2003
13,527
tokyo
Gwylan said:
Oh, they're true all right. I remember many of them being reported, there are some even crazier examples.

What's much worse though is the proliferation of trigger warnings in the study of books. The classic example is the university who gave out warnings about rape in Ovid's Metamorphoses - something we studied at 13 and 14. Are today's university students really deemed more sensitive than 70s schoolkids?
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What's a trigger/trigger warning?

Buzzer said:
The 'clapping causes anxiety' http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32032291/students-swap-clapping-for-jazz-hands-at-nus-event

'Gay men appropriating black women culture' http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/03/2...ells-gay-men-to-stop-acting-like-black-women/

'Selling sushi is cultural appropriation' http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...priation-over-undercooked-sushi-a6781821.html

'Germaine Greer's trans comments' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-34613148

'Peter Tatchell is racist and transphobic' https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...dents-free-speech-veteran-gay-rights-activist

Sadly, all of these incidents are true. I'll happily concede that they represent the more ludicrous end of the spectrum but it's indicative of the culture that exists at universities and why people such as man-hating, anti-semite NUS president Malia Bouattia rise to the top.
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That's really depressing.
 




spring hall convert

spring hall convert

Well-known member
Nov 3, 2009
9,608
Brighton
Garry Nelson's Left Foot said:
What's a trigger/trigger warning?
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A warning to the reader/viewer prior to them consuming content that could potentially induce a post-traumatic stress reaction. It was particularly commonplace in feminist blog culture, when discussing graphic descriptions of rape, which given that many women have been sexually assaulted was a pretty good idea.

Its use has been expanded to relatively trivial matters, to the extent that its actually turned into a in joke in some circles to come up with the most ridiculous thing that could be given a trigger warning. It's quite a fun game actually.
 








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