[Politics] General Election 2024 - The Poll

[The Clamp]

Questioners at Sunak warehouse speech turn out to be Tory councillors

First campaign day marked by concerns about ‘plants’ in audience and PM putting Euros foot in mouth in Wales

www.theguardian.com

 

[sussex_guy2k2]

I’ll vote Labour. We’re at a stage where I can’t ever justify voting Tory again.

But I suspect there’ll be a lot of people with very short memories who will keep voting for them. And lots of people won’t vote because our system only really cares about some seats and there’s a ton of apathy as a result…

I think it’ll be a lot tighter than people imagine.

 

[The Clamp]

I’ll vote Labour. We’re at a stage where I can’t ever justify voting Tory again.

But I suspect there’ll be a lot of people with very short memories who will keep voting for them. And lots of people won’t vote because our system only really cares about some seats and there’s a ton of apathy as a result…

I think it’ll be a lot tighter than people imagine.

Agree. I don’t think this will be an easy win for Labour.

 

[A1X]

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Questioners at Sunak warehouse speech turn out to be Tory councillors

First campaign day marked by concerns about ‘plants’ in audience and PM putting Euros foot in mouth in Wales

www.theguardian.com

Day 1’s gone well, then?

 

[The Clamp]

Day 1’s gone well, then?

Superbly.

The two plants asked Sunka how he had managed to get inflation down and will the Rwanda scheme stop the boats?

Allowing Sunak to trot out his formulaic nonsense.

Putin style politics.

I thought we would be above that .

Edit; no I didn’t

 

[Motogull]

Sunak cannot do this on his own. It is time to bring out the stars. You know, Mogg and Patel.

 

[Randy McNob]

Agree. I don’t think this will be an easy win for Labour.

i'd prefer a coalition, The Lib Dems/Greens can pull Labour back to the left

 

[zefarelly]

However by not voting for any of them, I will be expressing my opinion that none are worthy of receiving my vote.

If the voter turn out is low as a result, it shows that what they are offering are not that popular amongst those eligible to vote (another way of demonstrating an opinion about their policies) and it shows that what they are proposing hasn't connected to, or inspired potential voters to get out there and cast their vote for them.

People going out an voting for the sake of voting will make it seem like they, and their ideas are more popular and better supported than they really are, and they'll take that as evidence of it receiving wide spread support.

They could then use that perceived popularity to pursue policy / policies further, making them more extreme even if in reality the policy /policies are hugely unpopular, even amongst those who ended up voting for them into power, simply because they thought it better to vote for someone (as you and others are suggesting) rather than abstain.

By someone voting for the sake of it, it will even appear that they are backing all of their policies, even those policies to which they are 100% opposed to, simply because they endorsed them by voting for them (all parties may have things included in their manifestos which an individual is opposed to, so by voting for any of them, they will be supporting something they disagree with).

I would like to see the system changed as well. . . . . But letting people ruin the country with a piddling minotity of the populations approval won't help. . . . Vote for a part that supports reform!

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

You miss the point. Some people just don’t trust any of the parties and like me, won’t be voting this time around. I genuinely would rather waste my vote than give it to a party I don’t support or trust.

When was the last time that you did trust a political party? Was it linked to a particular issue or do you have to trust them on every issue?

 

[Seagull]

Voters Left Voiceless: The 2019 General Election

The 2019 general election was pitched as a ‘People versus Parliament’ vote. But the so-called deadlock was a crisis of Westminster’s own making.

www.electoral-reform.org.uk

No point in voting if not in a marginal. 70% of votes in 2019 were wasted or excess. Thinking I’ll creatively spoil the ballot. #notademocracy

 

[Randy McNob]

New university students won't even have their A-level results or have confirmation of a place in July. Even then, they don't move into halls or digs until September. Not sure what the evidence for that would be?

 

[Bold Seagull]

I’d love to know how this date is impacting uni students. That video doesn’t help.

 

[jimhigham]

I thought it would be interesting to see how this poll compared to the one taken on NSC ahead of the 2019 General Election (but then I am a nerd). However, I can only find this poll using the advanced search, which isn't like for like, as it asks for votes in relation to the previous election. The OP mentions there's another poll floating about but I'm blowed if I can track it down. Anybody with the technical nous and lashings of free time able to track it down at all?

https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/threads/definitive-general-election-poll.376306/

 

[pb21]

I thought it would be interesting to see how this poll compared to the one taken on NSC ahead of the 2019 General Election (but then I am a nerd). However, I can only find this poll using the advanced search, which isn't like for like, as it asks for votes in relation to the previous election. The OP mentions there's another poll floating about but I'm blowed if I can track it down. Anybody with the technical nous and lashings of free time able to track it down at all?

https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/threads/definitive-general-election-poll.376306/

https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/threads/the-general-election-thread.376151/

Here you go, I can't imagine anyone not sticking by what they posted on that thread

 

[jimhigham]

Thanks @pb21 and @WATFORD zero

Here's December 2019...

And here’s now…

My electoral calculus might well be a little off, as I’m no Professor Curtice, but I make that a swing from the Tories to Labour of 24.8%.

That would do the trick.

 

[aolstudios]

If not posted before Jezza Corbyn is set up to stand in Islington North, could be blood on the carpet.

His, hopefully

 

[aolstudios]

I will be spoiling my ballet as I will never vote labour again.

How good was your ballet before you spoilt it?

 

[abc]

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[abc]

Tactical Lib Dem to remove the Tory

I will do this even though I would hate the Lib Dems to gain power (which they won’t of course). We need PR where every vote counts equally and there is therefore a reason for everyone to engage with politics.

 

[jakarta]

Personally Andrew Griffith will retain his seat for Arundel and South Downs with ease.

Nationwide the Tories will have their arses kicked, Labour should get at least a 100 seat majority.

I think that this is all I want to say until polling day...