- Aug 7, 2003
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I received a letter yesterday, purporting to be from myself in 20 years time, saying how much I regretted voting for reform and letting labour in. Totally weird.View attachment IMG_1228.jpegView attachment IMG_1229.jpeg
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[Politics] General Election 2024 - 4th July
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Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
I agree, and it's pretty stupid that society has ever allowed it to become an issue in the first place.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Machiavelli
Well-known member
Weird certainly but, even more, desperate.
Those tories are very weird.
- Jul 10, 2003
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What a pleasant change to actually see a properly briefed journalist calling out blatant lies
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
I'd imagine they'll just introduce new taxes rather than raise existing ones. As long as they are targeted at stopping the transfer of wealth to the richest in society then I don't think many would have a problem with that.
Is this the most pointless General Election campaign ever? The Tories have nothing to say, and Labour are too scared to say anything in case they manage to do the impossible and blow their unassailable lead. The only winner is Farage who can actually get out there and get an audience for his benighted attempt at being Marine Le Pen.
Crikey. That's a car crash. In fact, he mounted the pavement and drove at pedestrians.
They are using the same tactics that 'Vote Leave' used to fuel the Brexit debate. Vote remain and Turkey will join the EU and this will allow free movement of terrorists.
And when the lies are pointed out they say 'well, what is Labour going to do about immigration?'. In fact Tories are doing this now. I recall an oaf posted a diatribe in support of Rwanda yesterday along the lines of 'Labour has no plans for The Boats'.
It is just lies.
Society? I suppose you can break that down to the media (you get great clicks from trans stories) and hard right and left politicians pushing it to the centre of the debate.
Fancy that. The media and the hard right think we should be more worried about a trans person with a set of cock & balls in a women’s toilet but ignore the fact our prisons are full, rapists aren’t being put away and rape cases can take 5 years to get to court. Under 1% of rape reports lead to prosecution yet all we hear is that Starmer doesn't know what a woman is.
I’d like to see a massive change in who is controlling the narrative of ‘Society’.
Is this the most pointless comment on this thread?
You are clearly going to be a MASSIVE loser from this election come Thursday but to claim that Labour won’t be the winner with a stonking supermajority can only come from a person with the same relationship to truth as Boris Johnson and the same relationship to reality as Liz Truss.
Indeed. And I can't blame them doing what is necessary to avoid it being weaponized.
The way the Tories are operating now is asking 'will you promise to not raise any taxes, ever?'. Since nobody can do that, unless they are prepared to destroy society at a point when taxes have to be raised, Labour have to chose words carefully. Consequently the Tories are still maintaining that Labour haven't ruled out raising our taxes. So Labour will definitely raise all our taxes. By £2,000 a year for every working man women and child!
D'you know what? I have had enough of the Tories and their pettifogging political shit-housing, and want them to just f*** off, and keep on f***ing off until they are no more than a pool of grease and drifting smoke,
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Talking of lies. Somehow SKS saying he wants a work life balance, especially so his Jewish wife can celebrate the Sabbath meal on a Friday, has transformed into a 4 day week according to liar Maria Caulfield.
Lewes, Seaford, Offham, Newhaven you know what to do on Thursday.
Lewes, Seaford, Offham, Newhaven you know what to do on Thursday.
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- Oct 17, 2008
- 14,501
Had a letter from Maria’s office yesterday talking about her achievements in the constituency. It’s pretty hilariously thin reading.
Let’s break these down:
- getting a “brand new” medical hub. Failed with zero actual progress.
- voted for something ethical once in the Commons (under the whip)
- a traffic light proposal (pending)
- contributed to closure of our remaining high street banks
- had some traffic lights actually installed
- improved mail services (?!) - they’ve never ever been an issue where I live
Absolutely desperate showing
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Interesting.
So of the 27 items, 21 were costed by the Treasury, 2 by Labour, 1 by an investment bank, and 3 or 4 by Government depts.
I think he could have been more certain on how many government depts could he not?
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Have the Tories really reach a point where they think that stating outrageous lies will benefit them because for every person who hears the interviewer's rebuttal calling it out, there will be another voter who only hears the lie and believes it?
This is the only explanation I can think of. Presumably they have seeded the narrative with claims about media bias. But it isn't just the BBC that is calling them out. It is all media, apart from the Putin one (GBNews). And only sorts who were born right wing and are congenitally racist (wankers) still 'trust' GBNews, so these are votes Labour will never get.
I'd almost feel sorry for there Tory politicians, were they not so dislikable. Maria Caulfield, I ask you? Into the sea with them!
This is the only explanation I can think of. Presumably they have seeded the narrative with claims about media bias. But it isn't just the BBC that is calling them out. It is all media, apart from the Putin one (GBNews). And only sorts who were born right wing and are congenitally racist (wankers) still 'trust' GBNews, so these are votes Labour will never get.
I'd almost feel sorry for there Tory politicians, were they not so dislikable. Maria Caulfield, I ask you? Into the sea with them!
With a bit more hubris she can claim responsibility for the planning approval for the Amex, and for masterminding the Albion's rise into the EPL and Europe.
Instead it seems she has gone all 'cheese markets'. Or their local equivalent: perhaps a 100% increase in high-protein shell fish outlets (winkle and cockle stalls) on Seaford sea front (from 1 to 2)? Heartwarming stuff from a Grown Up politician.
- Oct 17, 2008
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In theory, Caulfield should’ve been a slam dunk. NHS nurse, commoner, local - she’s just thoroughly, entirely invisible. Her voting record is astonishing, in that from what I can tell she hasn’t defied the whip in her six and a half years.
Locally, she oversaw the installation of a set of traffic lights. I’ve never once, ever seen her in Seaford.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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here's another: knowing they'll lose, it's strategic, looking ahead to confine Labour to current tax programme. any significant tax rises and next election it's all "see, you cant trust Labour, say one thing and do another".