[Politics] General Election 2024 - 4th July

[nwgull]

There you go. Sunk is telling us all about it now on radio 5.

The tories have been through Labour's promises and it will require an increase in tax that will cost every man and woman an extra £2,000

And Starmer wants to offer an amnesty to illegal immigrants.

Crikey.

That's a bargain if it goes some way to sorting out the shitshow of the last 14 years (mainly the last 8 years).

I think that a large number of people find the prospect of 'back to square 1' quite appealing.

 

[Titanic]

Starmer launching his campaign at Priestfield.

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Starmer launching his campaign at Priestfield.

Does he know we've moved back to Brighton now?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Some interesting alternative theories on the slightly vexing 'why now?' question on the Today programme just before 9. Which were:

a) Money. Labour are now attracting far more donations from business and would have got even more had they held an October conference. On the flip, people seem disinclined to donate to the Tories at the moment for some strange reason. And....

b) Sunak has simply had enough, is getting out and taking many with him.

I'm not sure how much I believe either, yet they were serious theories from current political analysts.

 

[Stato]

There you go. Sunk is telling us all about it now on radio 5.

The tories have been through Labour's promises and it will require an increase in tax that will cost every man and woman an extra £2,000

And Starmer wants to offer an amnesty to illegal immigrants.

Crikey.

So according to the Conservatives you can't vote Labour because they haven't got a plan. Also the plan they haven't got will cost everybody £2k and swarm the country with illegal immigrants.

 

[Bob!]

Some interesting alternative theories on the slightly vexing 'why now?' question on the Today programme just before 9. Which were:

a) Money. Labour are now attracting far more donations from business and would have got even more had they held an October conference. On the flip, people seem disinclined to donate to the Tories at the moment for some strange reason. And....

b) Sunak has simply had enough, is getting out and taking many with him.

I'm not sure how much I believe either, yet they were serious theories from current political analysts.

c) The School year in California starts in August

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Stop the chaos
Change
Stable economy
NHS back on its feet
Border security
Great British Energy
Antisocial behaviour
New teachers
A country fit for the future
A choice to vote to turn the page

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

So according to the Conservatives you can't vote Labour because they haven't got a plan. Also the plan they haven't got will cost everybody £2k and swarm the country with illegal immigrants.

Precisely.

Luckily for them around 30% of the electorate will lap this up.
And by their calculation that's more than half of the population!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Nigel Farage won't be standing as he can't face an eighth defeat at the ballot box.

 

[ROSM]

Some interesting alternative theories on the slightly vexing 'why now?' question on the Today programme just before 9. Which were:

a) Money. Labour are now attracting far more donations from business and would have got even more had they held an October conference. On the flip, people seem disinclined to donate to the Tories at the moment for some strange reason. And....

b) Sunak has simply had enough, is getting out and taking many with him.

I'm not sure how much I believe either, yet they were serious theories from current political analysts.

Kate McCann from Times Radio was told by a few cabinet ministers that they felt it was as good as it was going to get and things will go wrong over the summer and no hope of tax cuts in an october/Nov fiscal statement.

One said 'there is no point being holed up in downing St over the summer with things going wrong around you and no way of taking action '

 

[beardy gull]

Peter Kyle will once again get my vote. If I lived in another part of the country I’d vote for whoever https://tacticalvote.co.uk/ suggests.

 

[JBizzle]

Peter Kyle will once again get my vote. If I lived in another part of the country I’d vote for whoever https://tacticalvote.co.uk/ suggests.

If I were to vote tactically, (which I won't because thankfully my vote aligns with the close 2nd candidate in my constituency anyway), this "TBC" may be gaining some traction in a few regions

 

[Conkers]

Peter Kyle will once again get my vote. If I lived in another part of the country I’d vote for whoever https://tacticalvote.co.uk/ suggests.

This ‘TBC’ fella appears to be running in quite a few constituencies. Must be pretty good

 

[Stato]

There was interesting stuff from Rory Stewart on 'The Rest is Politics' last night. He said that half a dozen of his friends in cabinet/the tory back benches had let him know that there may be a 'very remarkable number' of their colleagues who haven't yet, but will be announcing that they aren't standing. 65 had already announced this by Monday https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mps-standing-down-next-election-b2549710.html. The surprise calling of the election will put quite a few local parties on the back foot in seeking candidates.

 

[Bry Nylon]

One said 'there is no point being holed up in downing St over the summer with things going wrong around you and no way of taking action '

Especially if you have a £5m condo in Santa Monica you could be in instead.

 

[Daddies_Sauce]

Will somebody just publish the Russia report that Johnson buried and everybody seems to have forgotten about, I'd hope that that would be the final and fatal nail in the Tories coffins for many many years to come.

 

[peterward]

Some interesting alternative theories on the slightly vexing 'why now?' question on the Today programme just before 9. Which were:

a) Money. Labour are now attracting far more donations from business and would have got even more had they held an October conference. On the flip, people seem disinclined to donate to the Tories at the moment for some strange reason. And....

b) Sunak has simply had enough, is getting out and taking many with him.

I'm not sure how much I believe either, yet they were serious theories from current political analysts.

I doubt either were motivating factors.

The grumblings and threats of letters to the 1922 committee, plus the 2 pieces of perceived economic good news, and I reckon Sunak thought it won't get any better than this, and possibly worse again.

Plus all the hints at autumn and then going July he may have hoped for the surprise element.

If he gets any advantage it will only be in a slightly less bigger loss.

His loss is inevitable.

 

[vegster]

Nigel Farage won't be standing as he can't face an eighth defeat at the ballot box.

It was only the European Parliament that ever gave him a job ! And, he fiddled his expenses, failed to attend meetings and voted to leave his employment. Twat of the highest order !

 

[beorhthelm]

Kate McCann from Times Radio was told by a few cabinet ministers that they felt it was as good as it was going to get and things will go wrong over the summer and no hope of tax cuts in an october/Nov fiscal statement.

One said 'there is no point being holed up in downing St over the summer with things going wrong around you and no way of taking action '

so "b" then, applied across the cabinet.

 

[Pevenseagull]

Newspaper headlines: PM's 'big gamble' and 'things can only get wetter'

Thursday's front pages are dominated by Rishi Sunak's announcement of a general election on 4 July.

www.bbc.co.uk

Highlight, Daily Express describing Soggy Sunak as 'EMBOLDENED'.