nicko31
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Its not even an opinion, its an observation. Anyway, no time for schadenfreudeSuch an arrogant viewpoint!
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[Politics] General Election 2024 - 4th July
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Machiavelli
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Manifestoes are most usually released when the election is declared, and we move in to the official campaign (usually six weeks). This is why those that are regularly decrying the lack of such a document from Labour is a somewhat disingenuous position to adopt.
Indeed. And it was not entirely obvious in Thatcher's manifesto that her plans were mainly to finish off the unions and privatise everything.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
We'll I can assure everyone that the Unions are very much alive and kicking, train travel to The Amex and Chelsea proving the point.
Once Sir Starmer gets the keys, I fully expect their power to increase significantly.
Once Sir Starmer gets the keys, I fully expect their power to increase significantly.
No, it's an opinion. And it is arrogant.
This was an unintended effect of the Thatcher years. She was tolerated by tories who sneered at her provincial vulgarity and battiness, but went on the ride, surely aware that there was a 'rebalancing' beginning, where the featherbedding of the great unwashed was at an end, and an opportunity for those who rule to be able to spend more agreeable time with their money appearing on the horizon.The most depressing yet bleedingly obvious thing about this report is that back in the 1960s there was parity in political engagement between those in different categories of wealth. In the 1960s, the inequality range was low and narrowing on a clear trajectory. Subsequently it's high, growing and on a clear trajectory. And look what happens as a result:
Next UK election set to be most unequal in 60 years, study finds
Voter turnout gap between top and bottom earners growing since 60s, says IPPR thinktankwww.theguardian.com
And also, to give the old bat the credit, the entrepreneurs were given their wings. A pity so many of them turned out to be shysters and charlatans.
At the end of the day, it is what it is.
Yep.
I posted a few days ago about my cleaner's reply to my comment about my foreign students paying £15K plus a year to study being f***ed about. Her reply "well they bring all their families over".
(they don't. Unless they want to visit. They are all relatively rich).
Ironically my cleaner has had cancer and been treated by the NHS (awash with foreign staff). She is likely to have a relapse (that kind of cancer). I hope her treatment won't be delayed like mine has (spinal cyst and the mere loss of sensation in my right leg) due to staff shortages. Exclusively due to staff shortages. Because we are Keeping The Foreign Buggers Out. Even the ones who want to work in the NHS. To fill all those vacancies.
But once the intellectually challenged have made up their minds, there is no turning (because turning is not for ladies or gentlemen, no sir).
Incidentally, those who don't like to discuss politics.....like Mrs T's aunt....its because they don't like the reaction to their ****ish views. Mrs T's aunt was visibly shocked when I suggested that her stated reason for voting Brexit (hoards of lesbian muslim terrorsist with dozens of relatives illegally stealing our jobs and simultaneously going on the dole) may in fact not necessarily be justified. But Mrs T's aunt doesn't like to discuss politics, so we moved on. The begonias are doing so well. Innit.
- Apr 5, 2014
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Looking at the stats it's clear that the majority come to work or study. The highest study group is from China and the area most likely for workers is the NHS. Asylum seekers make up the smallest percentage. I can only assume that the increase in numbers from outside the EU is down to the decrease from within. We need these folks.Yep.
I posted a few days ago about my cleaner's reply to my comment about my foreign students paying £15K plus a year to study being f***ed about. Her reply "well they bring all their families over".
(they don't. Unless they want to visit. They are all relatively rich).
Ironically my cleaner has had cancer and been treated by the NHS (awash with foreign staff). She is likely to have a relapse (that kind of cancer). I hope her treatment won't be delayed like mine has (spinal cyst and the mere loss of sensation in my right leg) due to staff shortages. Exclusively due to staff shortages. Because we are Keeping The Foreign Buggers Out. Even the ones who want to work in the NHS. To fill all those vacancies.
But once the intellectually challenged have made up their minds, there is no turning (because turning is not for ladies or gentlemen, no sir).
Incidentally, those who don't like to discuss politics.....like Mrs T's aunt....its because they don't like the reaction to their ****ish views. Mrs T's aunt was visibly shocked when I suggested that her stated reason for voting Brexit (hoards of lesbian muslim terrorsist with dozens of relatives illegally stealing our jobs and simultaneously going on the dole) may in fact not necessarily be justified. But Mrs T's aunt doesn't like to discuss politics, so we moved on. The begonias are doing so well. Innit.
It seems that government is shooting itself in the foot in its bid to please ignorant understanding and, of course the media.
Sometimes I feel like I'm watching some strange film reel when I see the news. It's like few of us are actually connected to what is happening. Yet somehow the ones in the film are actually those who are disconnected from reality.
Machiavelli
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Given all the speculation today about a July 4 election, might be worth getting this thread under way. Professor Sir John Curtice stated in April that the date would be November 14. Either way (and other dates are available), it's approaching.
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KZNSeagull
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Not this year then? (thread title)
- Oct 17, 2008
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Presumably it’s for the snap election next year as Labour try and extend their majority
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Yep an election has to happen this year.
Brian Fantana
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Not technically correct. It can take place on any date up until January 28th 2025.
Arthur
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Been piling into July on the betting markets for the last three weeks. Even managed to get some on at 3s last night and 5/2 this morning.
Going to be an enjoyable beer this evening when it gets announced in an hour or so.
Going to be an enjoyable beer this evening when it gets announced in an hour or so.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Really, I thought it was a period of 5 years, why the extension?
Machiavelli
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Think it's because parliament is closed for the six week duration of the campaign, which would allow for a full five year term of government. It took me ages to twig that the fixed term parliament act no longer applies.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Cheers, I wish a few commentators would mention that sometimes!
ROSM
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It's from when parliament sits after an election. Which was mid jan 2020 as election took place after the christmas recess would have started.
So without fixed term parliament act, the PM can call an election any time up to 5 years from the 1st sitting of the last parliament
US Presidential Election November 5, 2024
November 14, 2024 would be 9 days after the US election. Just enough time for Trump to pull off a riot and possible civil war put down.
November 14, 2024 would be 9 days after the US election. Just enough time for Trump to pull off a riot and possible civil war put down.
