[Politics] General Election 2024 - 4th July

[jcdenton08]

It will be interesting to see the next You Gov poll , a possibility of the Tories reduced to 20 or less seats after the GE

Believe it when I see it. I know it’s fun to speculate about record lows etc and hope it happens, but this always happens with unpopular governments and it’s never as bad as the worst polls or as good as the best. They’ll get a shoeing but they aren’t going to end up with 20-odd seats. Double it as a minimum

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

A lot of the swivel eyed loons on the Tory right will be switching their vote to Reform giving Labour even more seats.

 

[beorhthelm]

I think Labour can win in Clacton now. I think they could attract up to a third of voters from the Tories, if Reform do the same, Labour win.

about as likely as Labour and Green split leading to a Conservative win in Brighton Pavillion.

 

[Trevor]

Beginning of this month electoral calculus were predicting a 51% chance of Labour winning Clacton with their predicted share being

Labour 40.2 %
Tory 39.7 %
Reform 13.2 %

I think Farage standing eliminates the possibility of a Tory win in that seat

 

[A1X]

 

[Motogull]

I’m actually quite pleased that Farage has decided to stand.

You can speak for yourself.

I can't bear the duplicitous attention seeking kunnt and the pandering he gets from the media.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

As much as I don't admire his politics, I admire his strategy

He said that a Labour government would be slightly worse than the Tories- in other words not a lot changes (don't vote Tory). He doesn't want to put people off Labour for now. That comes later.

He said Labour has already won the election ( a vote switch will make little difference)

He parachutes into Clacton (huge BREXIT area, massive Tory majority, 'right wing' Labour voters)

He wants Labour to wipe out the Tories in the election and sets up Reform as an opposition outwith parliament on the back of a waiting vote. In the meantime they cruise in the yearly council elections.

That's his theory anyway. First indications on July 5th.

His strategy was to go to help Trump get re-elected, but that went pear shaped with his 34 convictions. Now, his paymasters have decided Reform needs a leader.

 

[jcdenton08]

lol!

 

[jcdenton08]

Speaking as a “neutral”, as in I’m a neutral centrist with no love for any of the parties…

Campaign faux pas have and will always be a thing - Ed Miliband couldn’t eat a sandwich for instance, which was very funny albeit promoted from the right wing media. Then Corbyn’s nonsense…

But I can’t remember a worse election campaign ever than the Tories effort so far, it’s been absolutely horrific.

They have money to send me an expensive glossy newsletter in the post, but can’t prevent these catastrophic photo ops with Sunak looking like an idiot again and again and again…

It’s just The Thick of It but funnier. Absolutely atrocious.

 

[A1X]

lol!

Best thing was he went on the Sophy Ridge show later and got proper pissy about it and threatening to go to Ofcom, when any sensible politician would have had a laugh and turned it into a joke in the few hours since it happened

 

[GT49er]

A lot of the swivel eyed loons on the Tory right will be switching their vote to Reform giving Labour even more seats.

So which way will the equally swivel eyed loons on the extreme Labour left go? Swivel eyed loons cancelling each other out? That'd do nicely.

 

[jcdenton08]

Even the BBC are overtly taking the piss with their sub-headline

 

[sparkie]

How do you just announce that you're the leader of a political party? I know that the rules for the vanity projects of blowhard attention seekers may be different, but I would have presumed that to become a leader of a proper political party you would need to face some kind of election of the members, rather than just getting your friend to let you do it.

Can any of us announce that we're now leader of Reform? If so, I now baggsy Farage's job and my first decision as leader is for us to close the party political wing, change our name to 'The Village Green Preservation Society' and adopt a new single issue to replace Brexit: Bring back 'It Ain't 'Alf Hot Mum'.

All together:

"Preserving the old ways from being abused
Protecting the new ways for me and for you
What more can we do?"

Reform has only got one "member". Lol.

 

[crodonilson]

Interesting first TV debate last night in Scotland. By all accounts it was a good night for John Swinney, no wonder there was a huge roar of 'there's only one Johnny Swinney' in SNP HQ following the debate. I still think Labour will find it extremely tough north of the border.

 

[nicko31]

Interesting first TV debate last night in Scotland. By all accounts it was a good night for John Swinney, no wonder there was a huge roar of 'there's only one Johnny Swinney' in SNP HQ following the debate. I still think Labour will find it extremely tough north of the border.

He did a great job backing the fossil fuel industry. Where were the Greens from this debate?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Remploy started in 1949, and apart from two places left in Scotland, hasn’t been operational since 2015.

 

[A1X]

 

[dolphins]

Best thing was he went on the Sophy Ridge show later and got proper pissy about it and threatening to go to Ofcom, when any sensible politician would have had a laugh and turned it into a joke in the few hours since it happened

From what I could see, there was no fault with the reporter/presenter - Shapps called the reporter, who quite correctly and fairly immediately said that he was on-air, so there was no subterfuge or attempted trickery.

 

[jcdenton08]

From what I could see, there was no fault with the reporter/presenter - Shapps called the reporter, who quite correctly and fairly immediately said that he was on-air, so there was no subterfuge or attempted trickery.

Schappsy always nails it