We will never have enough Police, fact!
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General Election 2017
- Thread starter Giraffe
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We will never have enough Police, fact!
D
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Your post is spot on. It's too late.
D
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It's too late, and secondly this makes no difference at all. No point Labour and Lib Dems moaning about security, they all supported open borders over the years and let everyone and anyone in and then called people names when the general public started questioning it.
larus
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OK, maybe I should have added exclusions as regarding the emergency services/armed forces, but there are many in the public sector who are jobsworths. But in your typical, pathetic, pompous style you try (and fail) to score cheap points. Linking my comments toward council type staff to the attacks last night for purely political advantage is typical of you though - play the man and not the facts. Stick to your predictions pal, please give us another prediction for this election. Then we can all laugh at you again for being out of touch.
theonlymikey
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- Apr 21, 2016
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Judging by the fact these attacks have occurred during Ramadan I cannot see these people having anything to do with Islam
kevo
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- Mar 8, 2008
- 9,804
I would trust all of them more than Boris Johnson.
larus
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No exactly. Let's adopt the Corbyn policy of letting in more people as that's clearly working well for this country isn't it. These attacks are from non British people who don't approve of our way of life.
Yes, I know they may be legally British by birth, but they don't view themselve as British by way of life - just to clarify before one of the usual suspects tries to twist my words.
studio150
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3 people out of a multi cultural population of around 65.14m. I think you may be better leaving for America and joining Trump's supporters where you will fit in very well.
Neville's Breakfast
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I've lived and worked around the world including amongst Muslim populations and the only people
I have ever heard pose this question about their community is a subset of White British people.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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you're quite wrong about this. the "fairness" of setting minimum wage to some arbitary, round figure bears no relation to the economic value of the job. you can argue that its right to value a persons labour at a certain amount, but its not a valid argument to say thats fair for a business to have to pay. you're making a ideological argument to support one group and forcing it upon another. increasing minimum wage will be inflationary as it doesnt only raise the wages of the lowest paid, it also raises wages of those layers of pay above them, to maintain pay diferentials. the impcat to business depends on the business and pay structures, for those that the increases breaks the business model they will have to cut staff hours to accomodate, so the net result for many low pay will be negligable.
larus
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Here comes the usual apologist. It's not just 3, there were 5 last night btw. And last week in Manchester. And Westminster Bridge. And Glasgow. And the 7/7 attacks. And the thousands in watch lists. And the hundreds/thousands fighting in Syria for ISIS.
Yeah, it's just 3 people.
It you love Islam so much, I suggest you move to Pakistan and see how well they embrace you there.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Isn't working? There have been numerous attacks thwarted by the security services/police over the last few years. There are 500 live counter-terrorist investigations at any time, there are 23000 people on the radar. The security services have always said some will eventually get through, it's impossible to guarantee 100% security in a free society. It took just 8 minutes for the Police to respond to and kill all the terrorists.
It's ridiculous bringing the nuclear deterrent issue into a discussion about fighting terrorism. The current issue is how best to combat terrorism the man you want to become PM proudly boasts “I’ve been involved in opposing anti-terror legislation ever since I first went into Parliament in 1983”.
Prevention of Terrorism Bill in 1984. It introduced police powers to arrest a person suspected of involvement in acts of terrorism connected to Northern Ireland.
Corbyn: Voted against it
1989 Prevention of Terrorism Bill, which proscribed the IRA and Irish National Liberation Army.
Corbyn: Voted against it
Terrorism Act 2000
Introduced by the Labour government - gave a broad definition of terrorism for the first time. The Act also gave the police the power to detain terrorist suspects for up to seven days and created a list of proscribed terrorist organisations.
Corbyn: Voted against it
Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001
Corbyn: Voted against it
Aftermath of the London 7/7 bombings, part of the 2006 Terrorism Act - extended the detention-without-charge period from 14 to 28 days.
Corbyn: Voted against it
Counter-terrorism Act 2008
Corbyn: Voted against it
Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures Act
Corbyn: Voted against it
Justice and Security Act 2013
Corbyn: Voted against it
Now there may be some good arguments why he opposed one or two pieces of legislation but his serial opposition record suggests protecting the public isn't a top priority ..
Who knows. I doubt leaving them alone would have been a success but I do often wonder what different approaches could have yielded.
But you didn't did you? And you then try and divert attention from your own inadequacies by grumbling about, and pointing the fingers at, others. Cheap.
larus
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Maybe my point was quite clear to someone with reasonable intelligence as I was talking about the planning process, but I guess some people need things spelt out in basic language to make up for their own failings. I'll bear that in mind that I need to dumb things down for you.
